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Is anyone else surprised that so-called feminists still think that TWAW?

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AnnaQuayInTheUk · 17/04/2025 18:37

Several friends who have been quite pro TWAW in the past are today posting all over social media that they are devastated by yesterday's ruling, that they are Trans Allies, that TERFs should be truly ashamed etc etc.

These are women who also describe themselves as feminists. I thought they'd be lying low today, or maybe even giving a measured response to the ruling, but it seems to have triggered them into an extreme of Trans allyship.

I'm having to hold myself back from.descending into a slanging match with them.

Is it possible to be a feminist and believe that TWAW or should you stop claiming that title if you won't accept the SC ruling?

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Heylo · 18/04/2025 00:53

WithSilverBells · 17/04/2025 18:45

For many TWAW I expect it is part of the script. Lots of performative hand-wringing for a few days. Then a few weeks of 'tell us, what can we possibly do to help?' Then they will quietly drop their allyship and move on to the next thing.

They are certainly not women's rights activists

well said. I’ve been thinking about the seal clapping hand maidens and their next move. Genuinely believe as companies desert trans & the money drains away, the screamers will be less and less interested and eventually abandon ship. Also Gen Z - the younger trans community are growing up and likely growing out of the social contagion. I think the no of trans identifying youth will fall, and so will the cringey allyship.

still, no body should ever forget how far they got and what they achieved -

men in elite womens sport
a rapist in female prison
kids having surgeries
decimation of lesbian identities and spaces

everyone should be cautious forever

Waitwhat23 · 18/04/2025 00:38

Greyskybluesky · 17/04/2025 23:31

It's like a bingo card on here tonight! What's the prize?

I've had to bring out my bingo card on a couple of threads now but I think this is the fastest it's filled up. It's actually quite impressive in a bizarre way.

murasaki · 18/04/2025 00:37

My fault, I bit too soon and she had time to edit. But to her credit, she did say she'd edited. Although we can see that anyway by pressing the edited button under the post, I think people forget that.

porridgecake · 18/04/2025 00:30

OvaHere · 18/04/2025 00:25

It seems Micaela had to edit the post because even the subconscious of deeply committed trans activists knows that they are men in reality.

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Oh. Micaela must have edited it really quickly.

JohnKettleyIsAWeathermanAndSoIsMichaelFish · 18/04/2025 00:28

I've checked out my SM today and interestingly just the one post about being a trans ally, which has only had a couple of likes. And as an aside of all my TWAW lesbian friends not one of them has dated a TW. Just saying.

OvaHere · 18/04/2025 00:25

porridgecake · 18/04/2025 00:22

Because transmen are women.

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It seems Micaela had to edit the post because even the subconscious of deeply committed trans activists knows that they are men in reality.

porridgecake · 18/04/2025 00:22

Micaela64 · 18/04/2025 00:12

Really, funny then, that every woman I know, including myself has only ever had trouble from cis men rather than trans women, isn't it?

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Because transmen are women.

OvaHere · 18/04/2025 00:20

Micaela64 · 18/04/2025 00:12

Really, funny then, that every woman I know, including myself has only ever had trouble from cis men rather than trans women, isn't it?

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Men are just men. There's no difference.

At least you seem to be acknowledging they are men now - which is the point of the Supreme Court ruling.

Laws are not made or interpreted solely on the basis of the experiences of you and your friends. Although given your zealotry on this subject who knows if women you know would even tell you if they had a bad experience with a trans identified man. Would you even acknowledge it?

Pieceofpurplesky · 18/04/2025 00:19

Does the ruling now mean that trans men must use the female bathrooms? Or is it just trans women that need to change?
Can any man now enter a female space and say he’s a trans man?

Annascaul · 18/04/2025 00:18

Micaela64 · 18/04/2025 00:17

I meant trans women, sorry (edited)

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Even you don’t know one from the other 🤷🏻‍♀️

Micaela64 · 18/04/2025 00:17

murasaki · 18/04/2025 00:14

Trans men are women, so not surprising no.

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I meant trans women, sorry (edited)

murasaki · 18/04/2025 00:14

Micaela64 · 18/04/2025 00:12

Really, funny then, that every woman I know, including myself has only ever had trouble from cis men rather than trans women, isn't it?

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Trans men are women, so not surprising no.

Micaela64 · 18/04/2025 00:12

OvaHere · 18/04/2025 00:08

You haven't achieved that though. You've just contributed to the world being a much worse, more misogynistic place for women and girls. Congratulations.

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Really, funny then, that every woman I know, including myself has only ever had trouble from cis men rather than trans women, isn't it?

OvaHere · 18/04/2025 00:08

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You haven't achieved that though. You've just contributed to the world being a much worse, more misogynistic place for women and girls. Congratulations.

BunfightBetty · 18/04/2025 00:05

Micaela64 · 17/04/2025 23:34

Trans people are 0.5% so regardless of how you spin the statistics women are far more likely to be raped by cis men and if men are pretending to be trans women to get to women then that's a cis man problem, not a trans women problem.

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So you ARE happy for more women to be raped so men’s feelings aren’t hurt. I knew it.

How many women are you happy to offer up as collateral damage here? 50? 100? 500?

How many more women is it that you find acceptable to be raped just so those poor men don’t have to feel any uncomfortable feelings?

Please tell us what your figure is.

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OverpricedCupcake · 18/04/2025 00:02

Micaela64 · 17/04/2025 23:43

I wonder how many of these "knowledgeable posters" have ever even spoken to a trans person in depth or got to know them to try and better understand their experience instead of just reading about them in the Daily Mail.

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I find it rather difficult since most times I'm around them a police presence is needed to keep us women safe from them.

murasaki · 18/04/2025 00:02

OvaHere · 17/04/2025 23:58

It's #throwbackthursday on this thread I see.

All the crap, debunked arguments from circa 2018 making a pitiful, last chance saloon comeback like an aging boyband that was once popular but now has to play for an audience of 10 in a run down community centre.

I suppose you have to admire the commitment.

Yep, it's like A1 at Butlins in mid January.

I had to check I hadn't made A1 up.

OvaHere · 17/04/2025 23:58

It's #throwbackthursday on this thread I see.

All the crap, debunked arguments from circa 2018 making a pitiful, last chance saloon comeback like an aging boyband that was once popular but now has to play for an audience of 10 in a run down community centre.

I suppose you have to admire the commitment.

Micaela64 · 17/04/2025 23:54

Annascaul · 17/04/2025 23:48

What’s the source for this outrageous claim?

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They're right:

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/ncvs-trans-press-release/

Transgender people over four times more likely than cisgender people to be victims of violent crime

"Transgender people are over four times more likely than cisgender people to experience violent victimization, including rape, sexual assault, and aggravated or simple assault, according to a new study by the Williams Institute at UCLA School of Law. In addition, households with a transgender person had higher rates of property victimization than cisgender households"

Results showed that both transgender women and men had higher rates of violent victimization than their cisgender counterparts, but there were no differences between transgender men and women.

onwardsup4 · 17/04/2025 23:53

wrongthinker · 17/04/2025 18:49

I think the people who haven't got it by now might never get it.

This

PrettyDamnCosmic · 17/04/2025 23:51

murasaki · 17/04/2025 23:38

Ah, a nice new drop in from the Reddit school of incoherent reductive arguments. Welcome, @Micaela64, prepare to have your arse handed to you by a bunch of knowledgeable posters with the law, science and statistics at their fingertips.

Have at it, people!

My favourite from the lunatic ravings of TRAs on Reddit today was this although it's so batshit I suppose it could be a parody😀Given the spelling I doubt they are in the UK anyway.

part of me struggles to even take the ruling seriously because they deliberately ignored factual science, in favor of feelings of fascist, radicalized women.

murasaki · 17/04/2025 23:51

I hope no one is holding their breath for an answer.

StormyPotatoes · 17/04/2025 23:50

Lostmyusernametoday · 17/04/2025 23:42

Both women and trans women are so so so much more likely to be victims of horrific men (trans women proportionally higher)

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I’d also really like to know more about this. Please do share.

Annascaul · 17/04/2025 23:48

Lostmyusernametoday · 17/04/2025 23:42

Both women and trans women are so so so much more likely to be victims of horrific men (trans women proportionally higher)

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What’s the source for this outrageous claim?

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