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And so it begins - males can no longer conduct intimate searches of women - Transport Police

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ArabellaScott · 17/04/2025 13:37

https://www.gbnews.com/news/british-transport-police-strip-search-policy-supreme-court-ruling-trans-woman

'Trans officers within British Transport Police can no longer conduct intimate searches of women following a Supreme Court ruling, GB News can reveal.
Guidance to staff seen by this broadcaster said that, as an interim position, any "same sex searches are to be undertaken in accordance with the biological sex of the detainee."

Deputy Chief Constable Alistair Sutherland told BTP officers that the force would provide "further clarity" once it "had a chance to digest the judgment" handed down at the Supreme Court yesterday, which ruled that trans women are not legally women.'

British Transport Police update strip search policy after landmark trans Supreme Court decision

Officers have been referred to the 'Wellbeing Hub' if affected by legal ruling

https://www.gbnews.com/news/british-transport-police-strip-search-policy-supreme-court-ruling-trans-woman

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RedToothBrush · 17/04/2025 21:12

Hastentoadd · 17/04/2025 21:09

Agree, It’s great things are happening so quickly.

I think a lot or organisations knew what was happening was wrong but their hands were tied, with the new law it means they can implement change without fear of having a potential fight on their hands

That loud plop sound you hear is the sound of thousands of HR and legal departments shitting their pants.

Hastentoadd · 17/04/2025 21:09

loveyouradvice · 17/04/2025 13:44

Thanks for posting this @ArabellaScott

I'm impressed they have acted so fast and clearly - I hope others will follow suit.

Though I did find myself asking how often Transport Police are strip searching people?!?!?!?

Agree, It’s great things are happening so quickly.

I think a lot or organisations knew what was happening was wrong but their hands were tied, with the new law it means they can implement change without fear of having a potential fight on their hands

CervixSampler · 17/04/2025 21:03

But oh yes, the poor men 🙄🤬

CervixSampler · 17/04/2025 21:02

The response from a few organisations has been swift and although it should have never been necessary to make this ruling because, well, common sense, it really is heartening to read that things are changing and I can finally say what I believe.

TooBigForMyBoots · 17/04/2025 21:00

Life gets so much easier and straightforward following yesterday's ruling.

I love it.Grin

LittleGreenDuck · 17/04/2025 21:00

I work for the NHS. We've had a Trust wide email today acknowledging that many people will be shocked and upset by the ruling. An assurance that the Trust will continue to respect everyone's identity and offering support as we "navigate this journey together".

Banging my head against the desk. Very tempted to point out that some of us are overjoyed and relieved by the ruling, but I've not been in this post long and need to keep my job for now.

Signalbox · 17/04/2025 20:53

Ooh an interim policy. They are going to have to come out with a definitive policy PDQ if the judicial review is only on hold for 14 days following the SC decision. Should be a fairly easy adjustment to their current policy.

Mt563 · 17/04/2025 20:53

Although, of course a transman could check a women, but that would be fine and obvious they were a woman so no issues there.

borntobequiet · 17/04/2025 20:44

I have complained again to the BBC, and I will continue to do so every time I hear them centring men in this when they should centre women.

WarriorN · 17/04/2025 20:40

It’s concerning to see how many places have been flouting the law.

This has been the law for a long time!

Scout2016 · 17/04/2025 20:39

I have been wondering if there will be a drop in the number of men who wish us to pretend they are women after this ruling is put into action. I suspect we will see fewer men facing criminal sentences suddenly coming out as TW at the least.

Sadly I fear the number of young women wanting to pretend they are not women will not significantly drop, but I hope I am prove wrong.

Ramblingnamechanger · 17/04/2025 20:17

Twisted on channel 4 news to be dreadful that TW would now have to be searched by men…nothing about what happens to women. Actually this seems to be the general approach of media outlets… all about the female impersonators and how sad they are. Furious all over again,

ArabellaScott · 17/04/2025 20:12

LizzieSiddal · 17/04/2025 19:59

R4 and Channel 4 news both lead with this story but it was framed with deep concern that “Trans women will be searched by males”
I shouted at the radio -well that’s because most of them have a cock and balls!

There was obviously no mention what’s so ever about the fact that women will now not have to worry about being intimately searched by males.Angry

Or that female officers would have been forced to search males.

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Binglebong · 17/04/2025 20:09

ShockedandStunnedRepeatedly · 17/04/2025 17:48

Class action lawsuit against BTP incoming.

I hope so. Both for the women who have suffered but also because there will still be some who try to get round things. Money talks in a way decency doesn't.

RedToothBrush · 17/04/2025 20:04

Boiledbeetle · 17/04/2025 19:48

It's going to be interesting to see which organisations just roll over without even a whimper and which ones decide to go down fighting to their last breath.

Who has invested the most money in this and who is exposed to the highest levels of liability...

...do you think there might turn out to be a link?

ScoldsBridle · 17/04/2025 20:03

I am currently on a Facebook discussion where someone, obviously new to all this, is sympathising with poor India Willoughby - who has just posted about the travesty of British transport Police allowing men to strip search Trans women. Sigh. I’ve put my head above the parapet on Facebook for the 1st time and I can’t be countering every bloody piece of nonsense or else I’ll never be off Facebook.

DuesToTheDirt · 17/04/2025 19:59

WhoAreYouTalkingTo · 17/04/2025 19:54

Luckily the NHS will have to roll over.... Especially now they are joining NHS England as part of DHSC.

Good. Of all the organisations that grouped men-who-say-they're-women in with women, the NHS was the most ridiculous. How can sex possibly be trumped by gender in healthcare?

LizzieSiddal · 17/04/2025 19:59

R4 and Channel 4 news both lead with this story but it was framed with deep concern that “Trans women will be searched by males”
I shouted at the radio -well that’s because most of them have a cock and balls!

There was obviously no mention what’s so ever about the fact that women will now not have to worry about being intimately searched by males.Angry

WhoAreYouTalkingTo · 17/04/2025 19:54

Boiledbeetle · 17/04/2025 19:48

It's going to be interesting to see which organisations just roll over without even a whimper and which ones decide to go down fighting to their last breath.

Luckily the NHS will have to roll over.... Especially now they are joining NHS England as part of DHSC.

Boiledbeetle · 17/04/2025 19:48

It's going to be interesting to see which organisations just roll over without even a whimper and which ones decide to go down fighting to their last breath.

ShockedandStunnedRepeatedly · 17/04/2025 19:45

There are moves towards it in my specialist area of law (far from Equalities!) and a few tentative ones elsewhere. It could become a thing.

DuesToTheDirt · 17/04/2025 19:41

RedToothBrush · 17/04/2025 18:40

I don't believe class action is an English law thing. It's a us thing.

I had thought that the Post Office scandal was part of a class action. I did a search and found it described as a group action:
"A group action is a case where a number of claimants with similar claims get together to initiate an action against a single party. It is similar to a US class action." https://www.computerweekly.com/feature/Post-Office-Horizon-scandal-explained-everything-you-need-to-know
though the Guardian did actually describe it as a class action:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/jun/20/royal-mail-class-action-bulk-mail

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https://www.computerweekly.com/feature/Post-Office-Horizon-scandal-explained-everything-you-need-to-know

ShockedandStunnedRepeatedly · 17/04/2025 18:45

There were moves to encourage it recently but I’m not up to date on whether it caught on…

RedToothBrush · 17/04/2025 18:40

ShockedandStunnedRepeatedly · 17/04/2025 17:48

Class action lawsuit against BTP incoming.

I don't believe class action is an English law thing. It's a us thing.

Motorina · 17/04/2025 18:15

R4 6pm news took exactly the same tack. No mention that, up till now, some men could search female prisoners. Or that female officers were expected to search intact men.

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