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Politicians respond to the SC judgement

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ArabellaScott · 17/04/2025 10:59

A thread to gather politicians' responses to yesterday's Supreme Court judgement.

  1. Stella Creasy. She's rather unhelpfully posted a pdf, (and turned off replies), so archive below.

https://archive.ph/8T1Yl

https://x.com/stellacreasy/status/1912609872430133697

https://x.com/stellacreasy/status/1912609872430133697

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Crouton19 · 17/04/2025 13:27

Any squeaks from the Lib Dems? Has Ed Davey got anything to say?

ArabellaScott · 17/04/2025 13:20

Shona Robison is a fucking liar. interviewed by LBC:

https://x.com/ginadavidsonlbc/status/1912504661195583986

NEW: Cabinet Secretary Shona Robison tells LBC that the Scot Govt "accepts the judgement which clarifies the inconsistency between the GRA 2004 and the 2010 Equality Act" and will now work with the UKG and the EHRC
"because of course it was their guidance that we followed"

Asked what her message is to the women campaigners who feel vindicated today, she says "two Scottish courts upheld the government position and the guidance" but that will have to be amended and the SG will follow the new guidance

Asked if its time for the Scot Govt to step in and tell public bodies to change policies - to tell NHS Fife to settle with Sandie Peggie, she says "the guidance will be changed on the GRPB Act which is the test case", says not appropriate to comment on a live case

"but we would expect every public body to follow revised guidance" says public bodies have been following EHRC guidance. Is she blaming the EHRC for this legal case? "No, not at all but we acted in good faith in the interpretation of those two pieces of legislation"

Does she think her govt took the wrong tone on this issue with women campaigners, being told their concerns were not valid by former FM Nicola Sturgeon? "I have always been very careful to stress the importance of recognising there are different views - it has become divisive.

"I want the govt to work towards having a country inclusive of everyone's rights - rights on all sides need to be protected, and the judgement brings clarity. I am keen for us to be careful with our language, It's really important in terms of tone. I've always tried to do that."

How much has this fight cost Scottish taxpayers? "That will all be laid out in due course in a very transparent way and will be set out in the public domain in due course"

Who should be held responsible for the loss - and the cost? "The govt acted in good faith on the basis of legal advice and guidance from the EHRC, which was upheld in the Scottish courts."

Do women campaigners, who have been branded bigots and worse for knowing that biological sex matters, deserve an apology from their govt? "I've never used language like that. I have never felt it was helpful in what was a polarised debate.

There should be no one side that should feel it has "won", It's not about a victory for one side or the other. And as a woman and feminist I think the govt has a proud record of action on protecting women and girls."

https://x.com/ginadavidsonlbc/status/1912504661195583986

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ArabellaScott · 17/04/2025 13:15

ThatAgileCoralBird · 17/04/2025 11:49

Helen Joyce was superb being interviewed in times radio this morning.

On Humza yousef’s response
she said private eye would call it a reverse ferret but welcomed Humza to Terfdom.

I can't find Humza's response, any idea where it is?

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OvaHere · 17/04/2025 13:11

Ingenieur · 17/04/2025 13:00

Community notes are my favourite part of the new Twitter.

This one is absolutely devastating

Brilliant. Amazing how they think they can get away with being lying liars.

Ingenieur · 17/04/2025 13:09

fromorbit · 17/04/2025 11:48

Labour health minister Karin Smyth says NHS guidance will be updated to reflect the ruling :

https://x.com/BBCBreakfast/status/1912761239488409752

and says the Tories owe the country an apology & cites a Tory PM saying trans women are women.
https://x.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1912761073024827862

There is actual footage here so can't archive.

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Well done Karin!

And yes, Theresa May would have brought in Self-ID if Brexit hadn't prematurely ended her premiership.

The Tories need to shoulder the blame for squandering their majority on this matter.

Ingenieur · 17/04/2025 13:00

CrocsNotDocs · 17/04/2025 11:04

Anas Sarwar’s revision of history.

https://x.com/anassarwar/status/1912577587278143984?s=61&t=NHDSDk1MaF98GOtcuLi0Q

excellent community note.

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Community notes are my favourite part of the new Twitter.

This one is absolutely devastating

breakfastdinnerandtea · 17/04/2025 12:59

I’m awaiting my local MPs instagram post on this but I know what it will say. She has already outed her TWAW stance by saying that when she was a competitive swimmer as a teen she’d have been happy to race against a TW… 🙄

nauticant · 17/04/2025 12:55

Great thread.

I know it's Twitter but the replies to politicians who are still captured or are trying to reverse-ferret are brutal.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 17/04/2025 12:52

Women win major ratification of their rights

Loads of politicians in response (including Harriet Fucking Harman): Men still have rights too! I stand with men!

Jesus wept

JasmineAllen · 17/04/2025 12:43

GCAcademic · 17/04/2025 11:17

Imagine expressing "disappointment" that the Supreme Court has clarified that women have rights and trans people have rights, and that one category doesn't supersede the other.

I agree. I can only assume that all these disappointed people are disappointed because womens rights are being recognised which unsurprisingly makes me recoil at the thought of voting for them and their partys.

EasternStandard · 17/04/2025 12:32

ArabellaScott · 17/04/2025 11:26

Good point, Eastern, sorry.

Oh no don’t be sorry it’s a really useful thread thanks.

It’d be interesting to see if there’s an emerging pattern with the parties.

Chariothorses · 17/04/2025 12:22

Harriet Harman is one that disappoints me. Still peddling the lie on x that has decimated SS services/spaces with

'Single sex spaces for women are important & can exclude trans women but only where necessary'

despite numerous legal bods correctly her online that the Supreme Court judgement means any time it is lawful to exclude men, it will be necessary to exclude all men, including trans women, or else it won't be a SS space.

JazzyJelly · 17/04/2025 12:20

I've no expectation of a response, but on the flip side, I've emailed my MP this morning to tell him how pleased I am about the judgement. So he knows at least one constituent cares!

littlbrowndog · 17/04/2025 12:18

Helen was interviewed on radio5live by Rick and he straight away talked about trans people. She straight away said what about women who are 50% of the population. He is also asked her if she was sad for trans people when she replied he said you don’t sound very sad.

the bbc and their sadness but no sadness for women

PatsFruitCake · 17/04/2025 12:13

So many absolute fuckwits out there who just cannot bring themselves to support women.

Still it's a helpful reminder why I stopped voting LibDem and Green.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 17/04/2025 12:10

GwenogJones · 17/04/2025 11:54

Has everyone seen this gem?

A movement calls itself “Save The Whale.”
Nearly everyone thinks yeah, I’m all for that

“We will achieve this by killing Japanese people.”
This is ‘Women’s Rights’ - GC style.

Not from a politician but from the mind of the one and only India Willoughby
https://archive.ph/Fs2mi archived here

Himdia confirming what we already know, that he’s delusional.

MagpiePi · 17/04/2025 12:06

UrsulasHerbBag · 17/04/2025 11:24

Lots of solidarity for transwomen but not so much for the transmen… unless shoehorned into transpeople. How predictable. No mention of women either… how even more predictable.

Yeah, I thought this too.

Anything about women’s rights has to be centred on how it affects men.

orangegato · 17/04/2025 12:03

Men are sore losers aren’t they. Take your polyester dress and Poundland lipstick into the men’s please lads.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 17/04/2025 12:02

Labour and the SNP have been veeeeery quiet on this ruling.

Are there trying to pretend it didn't happen or desperately trying to come up with a spin on it?

JeremiahBullfrog · 17/04/2025 11:55

ArabellaScott · 17/04/2025 11:01

Carla Denyer.

https://x.com/carla_denyer/status/1912516964620050507

'I know there are many trans and non-binary people who will be feeling deeply worried today, caught in the midst of a media storm as they try to simply live their lives. To those people, I say: please know that I stand with you - today, tomorrow and always.
@TheGreenParty
continues to support a policy of self-ID to allow trans people to live full lives free from harassment in the gender they know themselves to be. The judge emphasised in his speech that trans people are still protected under the law, but it is for government to now demonstrate how this will be achieved. I will work closely with human rights and LGBTIQA+ groups to understand the consequences of this ruling, and will not hesitate to press for changes in legislation if it is needed to protect the human rights of all.'

https://archive.ph/wip/nMfJj

Perhaps trans people would be less worried if their supporters weren't constantly going on about how worried they should be. You don't see this with other minority groups as much, I don't think.

GwenogJones · 17/04/2025 11:54

Has everyone seen this gem?

A movement calls itself “Save The Whale.”
Nearly everyone thinks yeah, I’m all for that

“We will achieve this by killing Japanese people.”
This is ‘Women’s Rights’ - GC style.

Not from a politician but from the mind of the one and only India Willoughby
https://archive.ph/Fs2mi archived here

ThatAgileCoralBird · 17/04/2025 11:49

Helen Joyce was superb being interviewed in times radio this morning.

On Humza yousef’s response
she said private eye would call it a reverse ferret but welcomed Humza to Terfdom.

fromorbit · 17/04/2025 11:48

Labour health minister Karin Smyth says NHS guidance will be updated to reflect the ruling :

https://x.com/BBCBreakfast/status/1912761239488409752

and says the Tories owe the country an apology & cites a Tory PM saying trans women are women.
https://x.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1912761073024827862

There is actual footage here so can't archive.

https://x.com/BBCBreakfast/status/1912761239488409752

SeventeenClovesOfGarlic · 17/04/2025 11:48

Some posters aren't pasting the tweet or doing a screenshot, most many people don't want to use that Musk website or give it any traffic.

FlippinFumin · 17/04/2025 11:43

Do you know how you can tell this is a men’s rights movement? All the bloody politicians and celebrities massaging the egos of trans identifying men and making soothing noises like they are bloody babies.