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Politicians respond to the SC judgement

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ArabellaScott · 17/04/2025 10:59

A thread to gather politicians' responses to yesterday's Supreme Court judgement.

  1. Stella Creasy. She's rather unhelpfully posted a pdf, (and turned off replies), so archive below.

https://archive.ph/8T1Yl

https://x.com/stellacreasy/status/1912609872430133697

https://x.com/stellacreasy/status/1912609872430133697

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ArabellaScott · 17/04/2025 22:16

Kemi Badenoch has responded a fair bit on this. Article:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/16/supreme-court-kemi-badenoch-trans-women-rights/

https://archive.ph/EN3ho

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ArabellaScott · 17/04/2025 22:14

Still no comment at all from Wes Streeting or Starmer?

Funny that.

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ArabellaScott · 17/04/2025 22:11

KnottyAuty · 17/04/2025 21:43

Here’s a more positive one from independent Rosie Duffield on X

https://x.com/RosieDuffield1

Thank goodness for Rosie Duffield. Labour should be begging her back.

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Datun · 17/04/2025 22:09

lcakethereforeIam · 17/04/2025 21:03

Crikey, I've never seen Brendan O'Neill so spittingly crushing. He could crack nuts with that. And he sounds like he'd like nothing more.

Willoughby spent the day furiously doubling down on his delusions of womanhood. ‘I have always been a woman’, he said. Tell that to the jizz you sired your kid with.

They expect women to be the passive validators of their delusions, to bow, compliantly, to their presence in women’s spaces and their insistence on being women. When women withdraw their consent from this post-truth shitshow and say ‘NO’, the lie of their identity starts to crumble. That’s why men are angry – because women are revolting. It’s a story as old as time.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 17/04/2025 22:06

RedToothBrush · 17/04/2025 21:08

Every Labour MP who says shite like this needs to be reminded that the current law was written by the previous labour government, especially the ones that go on about the ruling being fascist...

The law has not changed.

I think one of my favourite things about all this is that it is one thing Labour absolutely cannot find a way to blame on the Tories.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 17/04/2025 22:05

PatsFruitCake · 17/04/2025 21:53

That piece in Spiked was fabulous. Laughed out loud several times and particularly enjoyed Professor of gibberish Judith Butler 😂

Alt right wankers and non binary wankers = two cheeks of the same arse

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Pianoaholic · 17/04/2025 21:56

Poor old Ed Davey.
Maybe he would have been happier if they'd taken him to a playground to talk about this momentous news.
Then he could have had a few goes on the slides etc to cheer himself up.

PatsFruitCake · 17/04/2025 21:53

That piece in Spiked was fabulous. Laughed out loud several times and particularly enjoyed Professor of gibberish Judith Butler 😂

Soontobesingles · 17/04/2025 21:46

I am genuinely perplexed how a judgement giving clarity on the rights of 52% of the population becomes a discussion about the effects on 0.05% of the population. It’s pretty obvious to anyone with thinking capacity that if there need to be sex based rights (because of sexism) these need to be based on sex. Rights for other groups should not be impacted by this, also obviously. How could the law have found differently without being a farce?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 17/04/2025 21:44

MarieDeGournay · 17/04/2025 16:19

Ed Davey, on BBC TV news

  1. a face on him like a dog eating a wasp.
  1. a lot of more-in-sorrow-than-in-anger side-to-side head shaking.
  2. exasperated calls for clarity, as we are in the dark about what this all means..

What part of "The unanimous decision of this court is that the terms woman and sex in the Equality Act 2010 refer to a biological woman and biological sex."
doesn't he understand?

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not crystal clear, Ed.

KnottyAuty · 17/04/2025 21:43

Here’s a more positive one from independent Rosie Duffield on X

https://x.com/RosieDuffield1

Politicians respond to the SC judgement
MissScarletInTheBallroom · 17/04/2025 21:42

ArabellaScott · 17/04/2025 15:48

Kate Osborne, Labour.

Retweeted 'Labour for Trans Rights'

https://x.com/Lab4TransRights/status/1912444326434439466

And publishes this:

https://labourlist.org/2025/04/supreme-court-trans-rights-labour/

'Sex refers to biological attributes, and there are cases where spaces or services must be organised according to sex. But gender relates to social identity, presentation and perception of others , and often, dignity and protection must be afforded based on how a person is perceived in social terms.
For most people, sex and gender align — but for others, they do not, and the law must be equipped to deal with this distinction and these cases.'

Which cases does she put in the former category, and which in the latter, I wonder? She's talking about passing, isn't she?

That's all very interesting, Kate, but gender isn't a protected characteristic and is therefore completely fucking irrelevant to the application of the Equality Act.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 17/04/2025 21:40

Ingenieur · 17/04/2025 13:09

Well done Karin!

And yes, Theresa May would have brought in Self-ID if Brexit hadn't prematurely ended her premiership.

The Tories need to shoulder the blame for squandering their majority on this matter.

Oh, have we finally found a Brexit benefit?

Apologies to Jacob Rees-Mogg.

🤣🤣🤣

EasternStandard · 17/04/2025 21:39

Reading some of this stuff I’ll be so glad if they get voted out.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 17/04/2025 21:34

GwenogJones · 17/04/2025 11:54

Has everyone seen this gem?

A movement calls itself “Save The Whale.”
Nearly everyone thinks yeah, I’m all for that

“We will achieve this by killing Japanese people.”
This is ‘Women’s Rights’ - GC style.

Not from a politician but from the mind of the one and only India Willoughby
https://archive.ph/Fs2mi archived here

He really is completely lacking in any kind of self awareness, isn't he?

What a bell end.

lcakethereforeIam · 17/04/2025 21:34

RedToothBrush · 17/04/2025 21:04

Ah so now we have cave transwomen now do we?

Yes, the netranderthals.

BunfightBetty · 17/04/2025 21:31

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 17/04/2025 21:29

Imagine being so arrogant that you think that the UK's most senior judges collectively misinterpreted one of the UK's most important pieces of legislation and that you and your blue haired friends know better.

I know. He’s always been an arrogant shit, tbf.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 17/04/2025 21:29

ArabellaScott · 17/04/2025 11:16

John McDonnell

'The fact the court failed to hear the voice of a single trans person may help explain why today’s decision lacked humanity & fairness & instead replaced them with a narrow definition of the Equality Act. There has to be a better & empathetic way forward that respects trans rights'

https://x.com/johnmcdonnellMP/status/1912526198602662157

https://archive.ph/wip/5uJM9

Imagine being so arrogant that you think that the UK's most senior judges collectively misinterpreted one of the UK's most important pieces of legislation and that you and your blue haired friends know better.

OvaHere · 17/04/2025 21:28

lcakethereforeIam · 17/04/2025 21:03

Glorious as usual from O'Neill. I wish newspapers like The Times could be as blunt, scathing and to the point.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 17/04/2025 21:27

ArabellaScott · 17/04/2025 11:12

Zarah Sultana

'Solidarity with trans women after today’s Supreme Court ruling. The rollback of LGBT rights — especially trans rights — is global, bankrolled by billionaires and the far-right. Trans rights are human rights. We must defend the Equality Act and its protections for trans people.'

https://x.com/zarahsultana/status/1912486527352840220

https://archive.ph/wip/RmrYw

Oh do fuck off Zarah. The credit for this belongs to the women who wouldn't wheesht, not to Nazis and billionaires.

AngelinaFibres · 17/04/2025 21:21

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 17/04/2025 12:02

Labour and the SNP have been veeeeery quiet on this ruling.

Are there trying to pretend it didn't happen or desperately trying to come up with a spin on it?

Probably trying to make Keir Starmers comment that some women have penises disappear since the supreme Court said loud and clear that they do not.

AngelinaFibres · 17/04/2025 21:10

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 17/04/2025 11:07

The Greens are quite simply, insane 🤦‍♀️

They're absolute fools

RedToothBrush · 17/04/2025 21:09

fromorbit · 17/04/2025 21:03

Mary Glindon has been one of the few open MP supporters of Labour Women's Declaration for years to be fair.

This from 2022:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/31/labour-mps-back-gender-critical-group-after-conference-snub

Fair enough. Wasn't aware of her.

I am more than a little jaded by the fuck witted self serving bullshit coming from politicians from all camps on this though.

SeaStoat · 17/04/2025 21:08

And from the Republic of Ireland we have David Cullinane TD, Sinn Fein’s health spokesperson in the Republic apologising after initially welcoming the UK Supreme Court ruling. archive.ph/sbvLP

At Stormont, DUP MP Carla Lockhart declared it “a victory for common sense”.

TUV MLA Timothy Gaston said "The funding of Stonewall – which receives public money both via the Sinn Fein-led Department of Finance and the Sinn Fein and DUP-led Executive Office – must cease.
Policy documents such as the Inclusive Language Guide which was produced by the Finance Department and seeks to discourage the use of words such as mother, wife and girlfriend must be withdrawn."

UUP’s justice spokesman Doug Beattie MLA said the ruling “raises several questions” for Northern Ireland – such as, for example, “does it mean that women held in a woman’s prison can take a legal case against the Department of Justice and the Northern Ireland Prison Service, under our equality legislation, if someone who is transgender is placed within her prison accommodation wing?”
He added that “those from the transgender community exist, and this ruling does not take away their rights as a protected group, but it does make it clear that they are transgender, not women”.

https://archive.ph/DtF55

Follow David Thompson, who produced the Stephen Nolan BBC radio series on Stonewall, on X at @NewsLetter_Pols for more Northern Irish reporting. NI has it's own equality legislation, not the Equality Act.

I'm looking forward to what the Alliance and nationalist MLA members of the Executive Office (TEO) committee, who were extremely hostile to the Women's Rights Network NI members who gave evidence on women's rights and single sex spaces in the TEO inquiry into gaps in equality legislation, will say. https://archive.ph/Gorbf

RedToothBrush · 17/04/2025 21:08

BingBongSong · 17/04/2025 20:57

Kim Johnson, Labour MP for Liverpool Riverside.

https://x.com/KimJohnsonMP/status/1912788601278022059

She's not my MP, mine hasn't mentioned yesterday's ruling.

Every Labour MP who says shite like this needs to be reminded that the current law was written by the previous labour government, especially the ones that go on about the ruling being fascist...

The law has not changed.