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Politicians respond to the SC judgement

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ArabellaScott · 17/04/2025 10:59

A thread to gather politicians' responses to yesterday's Supreme Court judgement.

  1. Stella Creasy. She's rather unhelpfully posted a pdf, (and turned off replies), so archive below.

https://archive.ph/8T1Yl

https://x.com/stellacreasy/status/1912609872430133697

https://x.com/stellacreasy/status/1912609872430133697

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KnottyAuty · 22/04/2025 13:25

Skyellaskerry · 22/04/2025 13:16

The fabulous Shelagh Fogarty talking about this very aspect Now, LBC.

"who is filling your mind with this imaginary woo-woo?!
Go Shelagh!

Skyellaskerry · 22/04/2025 13:16

The fabulous Shelagh Fogarty talking about this very aspect Now, LBC.

Felinnefine · 22/04/2025 12:40

Datun · 22/04/2025 12:19

Oh dear Lord, in less than a minute, he says give real clarity, has real clarity we needed clarity, important we have clarity.

This is what happens when you are completely wrong.

You have absolutely nowhere to go. I and millions of women could write reams. without using the same word twice, because we're right and we've got a million different ways of expressing it.

He has no other words, because he is incapable of articulating the SC concept, as fundamentally he has disagreed with it.

So all he can do is substitute an understanding that women are people too, with the non-partisan acceptance that something has been made clear to him.

That's it. His stance is that something has been made clear to him. The end.

Yes 🙌

SinnerBoy · 22/04/2025 12:37

Yeah, maybe...

Trans women should use toilets according to their biological sex, the equalities minister has said.

I checked. The sun rose in the East today. 100% I was on deck.

Datun · 22/04/2025 12:20

The word clarity is going to come to mean you're all bitches, I lost, my hands are tied, let's move on

Datun · 22/04/2025 12:19

Oh dear Lord, in less than a minute, he says give real clarity, has real clarity we needed clarity, important we have clarity.

This is what happens when you are completely wrong.

You have absolutely nowhere to go. I and millions of women could write reams. without using the same word twice, because we're right and we've got a million different ways of expressing it.

He has no other words, because he is incapable of articulating the SC concept, as fundamentally he has disagreed with it.

So all he can do is substitute an understanding that women are people too, with the non-partisan acceptance that something has been made clear to him.

That's it. His stance is that something has been made clear to him. The end.

Rummly · 22/04/2025 12:10

PronounssheRa · 22/04/2025 10:34

I bet starmer is so relieved he has the Supreme Court judgement to hide behind, it means he doesn't have to have an opinion of his own.

The way you put this made me laugh.

Although a lot of commentary has asked in exasperation “why did we need the SC to tell us what a woman is?”, your comment brought it all into the sharpest relief.

Our Prime Minister - the Prime-fucking-Minister - welcomes a ruling in court on what defines a woman. Oh, such helpful “clarity”! There we all were stumbling around in the dark before the most senior judges in the country lit the way forward for us.

What a feeble little fool Starmer is - and what a pathetic, mealy-mouthed little lawyerly fool, at that.

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EasternStandard · 22/04/2025 11:22

Annascaul · 22/04/2025 11:15

Typical Kier. Always a day late and a dollar short.

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Ha at this and pp

Annascaul · 22/04/2025 11:15

Felinnefine · 22/04/2025 11:10

Adult female? Adult female what? Adult female owl? Adult female narwhal? Adult female what Keir? And what about what you’ve said before? You said some women had penises. Are adult females women? What? What? Do adult women have penises then? Tricky.

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Typical Kier. Always a day late and a dollar short.

Felinnefine · 22/04/2025 11:10

ArabellaScott · 22/04/2025 10:55

https://x.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status/1914610404002521471

Adult female? Adult female what? Adult female owl? Adult female narwhal? Adult female what Keir? And what about what you’ve said before? You said some women had penises. Are adult females women? What? What? Do adult women have penises then? Tricky.

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Winterwonders24 · 22/04/2025 10:36

ArabellaScott · 22/04/2025 10:07

https://www.politics.co.uk/news/2025/04/22/keir-starmer-welcomes-much-needed-clarity-after-supreme-court-gender-ruling/

Pretty clear Keir.

I'll take it for what it is: acknowledgement of the highest court in the land by a man who has gone back on several core principles when it suits. He will need watching, feet to fire, and whilst I'll welcome people over the golden bridge, I can't trust or take seriously anyone who tried to bully or shame me into lying about material reality about anything else.

PronounssheRa · 22/04/2025 10:34

I bet starmer is so relieved he has the Supreme Court judgement to hide behind, it means he doesn't have to have an opinion of his own.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 22/04/2025 10:20

ArabellaScott · 22/04/2025 10:07

https://www.politics.co.uk/news/2025/04/22/keir-starmer-welcomes-much-needed-clarity-after-supreme-court-gender-ruling/

Pretty clear Keir.

Asked further whether this means he does not believe a trans woman is in fact a woman, the PM said: “A woman is an adult female, and the court has made that absolutely clear.”

Ouch.

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ArabellaScott · 22/04/2025 10:09

TheOtherRaven · 22/04/2025 09:09

Shift the narrative fgs onto creating nice welcoming all singing and dancing additional provisions and how lovely they will be. Trying to spend years undoing this to put women back under the control of men with problems isn't going to work well for anyone.

Yes. They could probably jazz up the GRC, too. Maybe customisable options. Different flags as required.

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TheOtherRaven · 22/04/2025 09:09

Shift the narrative fgs onto creating nice welcoming all singing and dancing additional provisions and how lovely they will be. Trying to spend years undoing this to put women back under the control of men with problems isn't going to work well for anyone.

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ArabellaScott · 22/04/2025 08:58

SameyMcNameChange · 22/04/2025 07:51

Bridget Phillipson is due on the Today programme sometime after 8 (possibly the 8.10 major interview). I can’t listen then - could someone report back?

Thread on it!

Not been able to listen but seems govt welcome the judgement and are clear on the meaning.

Statement in the commons later today

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Floisme · 22/04/2025 08:38

I'd bet the farm that Starmer won't try and change the law. A future successor might but Starmer hates talking about it and just wants it all to go away.
But I expect there will be many attempts to nullify it by inertia and subterfuge. It's tempting to look at the TRA demonstrations at the weekend and conclude they're all idiots who couldn't even change a lightbulb between them, but they have strategic thinkers too, which is why so many of our public institutions were and remain captured.

SameyMcNameChange · 22/04/2025 07:51

Bridget Phillipson is due on the Today programme sometime after 8 (possibly the 8.10 major interview). I can’t listen then - could someone report back?

WorriedMutha · 21/04/2025 22:57

Indeed and there are elections in a week's time. Starmer can't observe his vow of silence until then. Parliament are back this week.

SameyMcNameChange · 21/04/2025 20:49

WorriedMutha · 21/04/2025 20:33

If Labour try to legislate, it definitely won't be on the sly this time. It will be in the full glare of the media and the electorate are much more switched on now. Bring it on. Electoral suicide.

I agree. And the Supreme Court and all the Tribunal cases have given a handy list of questions to ask:

Would men be able to strip search women?
Do women need to share changing rooms with men?
Can lesbian groups exclude men?
Will women lose maternity protections?
Etc etc

WorriedMutha · 21/04/2025 20:33

If Labour try to legislate, it definitely won't be on the sly this time. It will be in the full glare of the media and the electorate are much more switched on now. Bring it on. Electoral suicide.

RedToothBrush · 21/04/2025 20:31

OvaHere · 21/04/2025 20:02

I think there will be a nasty internal battle but ultimately some of the top people in Labour are all too aware about the looming threat of Reform and that would be a gift. So I'm cautiously hopeful they won't. We'll see I guess.

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The issue will be a lack of commitment to single sex services and provision that the law needs.