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Any thoughts on fifth wave feminism?

36 replies

WhyThatsDelightful · 14/04/2025 22:10

Just that…

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MissScarletInTheBallroom · 14/04/2025 23:30

spannasaurus · 14/04/2025 22:29

"The 5th wave of what was once called feminism maintains a focus on encouraging, embracing & celebrating male tenderness, male gentility. The essential positive qualities of masculinity, congratulating them to the same extent that the negative masculine traits are lamented & condemned. A support system of the so-called divine feminine carefully observing & offering critique to the not-yet divine masculine qualities in anyone."

I found this description of 5th wave feminism, is this what you understand it to be OP?

Jesus H Christ, and I thought 4th wave feminism was all about the menz.

Sparkletits · 14/04/2025 23:29

Bannedontherun · 14/04/2025 23:12

Second waver here. But at the tail end of the collapse vis a vis spare rib.

But i always thought our biology was relevant and always saw that as women we were mothers and potential mothers, sisters aunts etc, and that is where our power must lay.

Feminism is a nebulous concept now. Maybe always has been.

The fifth wave belongs to us on here not the see you next Tuesday, women who earn a shed load and have no concept of real womens lives.

So high earning women can't be feminists?

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 14/04/2025 23:13

How can it be feminism if it's all about men?

Bannedontherun · 14/04/2025 23:12

Second waver here. But at the tail end of the collapse vis a vis spare rib.

But i always thought our biology was relevant and always saw that as women we were mothers and potential mothers, sisters aunts etc, and that is where our power must lay.

Feminism is a nebulous concept now. Maybe always has been.

The fifth wave belongs to us on here not the see you next Tuesday, women who earn a shed load and have no concept of real womens lives.

TheAutumnCrow · 14/04/2025 23:04

I'm cool with banging that good old 2nd Wave Feminism drum, and to keep the golden thread that's always been there through the 80, 90s and beyond, till now.

Golden thread second waver, that's me.

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/04/2025 22:59

The 5th wave of what was once called feminism maintains a focus on encouraging, embracing & celebrating male tenderness, male gentility.

If that's what 5th wave feminism is, it isn't feminism. Firstly it centres men, not women. Secondly it seems to consign feminism to history with its "what was once called feminism". Thirdly it sounds like patriarchal, religious bullshit about women's role in society.Hmm

spannasaurus · 14/04/2025 22:58

Here's where my previous quote and the one below come from.

https://medium.com/@rooves/5th-wave-feminism-94128e81028a

"A 5th wave has already begun to roll in, & it is as heavy & wide as the ocean itself.
In contrast to the 4th waves scorched-Earth mentality toward broken men, the 5th wave, as i have heard it expressed by femme-identifying people in various cities & of various ages, is a return to the nature/nurture ways of old. A focus on healing, not only men but anyone who has acquired unhealthy habits & lamentable behaviors, any ‘toxicity’ as the 4th wave torch-bearers so flippantly named anyone who was struggling with the problems of anger, addiction, & anything deemed socially unsavory."

5th Wave Feminism

how far we’ve come & where it’s taking us

https://medium.com/@rooves/5th-wave-feminism-94128e81028a

heaque · 14/04/2025 22:54

Is 4th wave feminism over? What was it?

lifeturnsonadime · 14/04/2025 22:50

Well isn't this just full circle, bit like trans - rights activism which makes the wishes and feelings of the male paramount?

FallinUltra · 14/04/2025 22:44

spannasaurus · 14/04/2025 22:29

"The 5th wave of what was once called feminism maintains a focus on encouraging, embracing & celebrating male tenderness, male gentility. The essential positive qualities of masculinity, congratulating them to the same extent that the negative masculine traits are lamented & condemned. A support system of the so-called divine feminine carefully observing & offering critique to the not-yet divine masculine qualities in anyone."

I found this description of 5th wave feminism, is this what you understand it to be OP?

What on earth does that have to do with feminism? It’s not an ‘ism’ of any kind, and has nothing to do with women’s liberation.

this just looks like a helpful leaflet about mothering boys.

spannasaurus · 14/04/2025 22:29

"The 5th wave of what was once called feminism maintains a focus on encouraging, embracing & celebrating male tenderness, male gentility. The essential positive qualities of masculinity, congratulating them to the same extent that the negative masculine traits are lamented & condemned. A support system of the so-called divine feminine carefully observing & offering critique to the not-yet divine masculine qualities in anyone."

I found this description of 5th wave feminism, is this what you understand it to be OP?