Julie Bindel on Woman's Hour this morning talking about lesbians!

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Exactly right. Anita Rani is even worse than Nuala, I don't even think she understands what she's saying half the time, let alone what her interviewee is saying. Standards are woefully low now.

Oh agree Winter. Rani is a a close second with her simpering. Such a shame and missed opportunity. I cherry pick the odd piece of interest but can’t listen to an episode all the way through as those two are just too enraging.

To be fair it went right off the rails with the Grace Lavery “ interview.

I don’t mind Nuala too much, although it seems I’m alone in this! I can’t bear Anita Rani’s simpering (so undignified), or her trans maiden ways (how about putting women first you fool?).

Oh I don't know, I think we need to give Anita Rani a lot of credit for steering the good ship WH off the course of serious women-centred discussion set by Emma Barnett. Shout out to Anita 'disgusted by the levels of transphobia here' Rani!

That's possibly because older women have been around the block a few times. There are a couple of women in my book group who are very well-heeled and quite left-wing, both of whom I thought would be on the Be Kind Bandwagon - especially the younger one. How wrong I was... The older one has given it some serious thought (with me dropping in comments); the younger one is raging.

Can you imagine WH with JB at the helm. It would be utterly awesome and would rattle a lot of cages.

I've just caught up with it. It was so tiresome the way Nuala had to caveat everything Julie had to say with "some people might find this view offensive" or "you don't speak for all feminists" etc etc.

I'm sure Nuala thinks she is doing this in the interests of BBC balance, but it was overkill, and they are obviously wary of upsetting the most marginalised people ever, such as straight non-binary people 🙄 I doubt she would have taken the same approach if someone was espousing the opposite view.

There’s probably a wide demographic/ideological gap between their staff and their listeners

Was at a book festival talk older very well heeled audience. One speaker was a liberal feminist be kind Nuala type the other a short haired young radical feminist lesbian. The audience LOVED the latter and not the former. I think WH are being too cautious.

Me too, I so adore Julie Bindel. What an incredible programme WH would be with her as a host.

A shame Nuala has single handedly ruined Woman’s Hour.

i’d start listening again

God I miss Emma.

JFC Nuala. Get a grip love!

Jenni and Emma were great. Forthright women’s women. Nuala gives the impression she thinks she is slightly above all the issues. She also is a massive “two sides to every story” handmaiden.

If I had my way Julie Bindell would replace her.

Nuala really does seem to be there to push the trans/queen debate and just comes across as a bit thick.

I too stopped listening after Jenni Murray left, came back for Emma Barnett and now just dip in for specific segments like this - but I'm really just listening to the guest rather than Nuala or Anita.

JB should be hosting WH, tbh.

McGovern is infuriating. Speaks with a light amused tone about everything, as if she's introducing knitting patterns or somesuch and she personally is above such trivialities.

I mostly stopped listening to WH when Jenni Murray left, briefly returned when Emma Barnett and left again with her departure. I did catch Julie this morning (accidentally), McGovern was, again, infuriating.

'I thought Julie was going to have to explain the concept of patriarchy at one point. Shame on Nuala McGovern, she is no feminist.'

I know! Basic stuff Nuala, basic stuff 🤦🏻‍♂️

Cannot stand her. She encapsulates hand maiden people pleasing. Such a disappointment

I thought Julie was going to have to explain the concept of patriarchy at one point. Shame on Nuala McGovern, she is no feminist.

I'll be listening to that tomorrow. Love JB.

As for the 'straight people with interesting hair' comment, I know of a couple where 'he' is a transman and 'she' is a transwoman. Basically a straight couple who like pushing sartorial boundaries and calling themselves 'queer' while playing with blue hair dye. What this had to do with gay people (many of whom loathe the word queer) I have no idea.

This was my take on the programme too.

Thank you for posting about this, I didn’t think I could love her more, but she is utterly wonderful.