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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Scottish Greens being sexist again

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fromorbit · 12/04/2025 11:38

With Sparkles no longer a member other male Scottish Greens have had to step up to continue their terrible reputation. They are doing their bit.

Scottish Greens council candidate claimed JK Rowling was a Holocaust denier and said trans rapist Isla Bryson was a woman
Exclusive: Eryn Browning has been chosen by the Scottish Greens to contest a by-election in Clydebank Waterfront but offensive historic posts have resurfaced.
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/scottish-greens-council-candidate-claimed-35039831?int_source=nba

There is hope the Scottish Greens might plunge into civil war after their conference. Patrick Harvie is standing down as leader but Slater is standing again and there is opposition over her elitist behaviour.
https://archive.is/ESYZg

Scottish Greens council candidate claimed JK Rowling was a Holocaust denier

Exclusive: Eryn Browning has been chosen by the Scottish Greens to contest a by-election in Clydebank Waterfront but offensive historic posts have resurfaced.

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/scottish-greens-council-candidate-claimed-35039831?int_source=nba

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guinnessguzzler · 05/07/2025 15:27

Nothing is ever enough, and it is fascinating watching the Greens have to deal with that now. Some might say it's karma.

fromorbit · 05/07/2025 08:15

Hilarious - the Green who accused Harvie of not being radical enough to stand aside for Trans women has been suspended. Harvie giving off secret Terf vibes perhaps!

Leading Scottish Greens activist suspended amid infighting

The Scottish Greens have suspended a prominent critic of Patrick Harvie and Ross Greer amid deepening internal divisions ahead of their summer leadership contest.
The Herald understands Niall Christie was suspended following multiple complaints submitted to party officials.
Sources say the move was partly linked to comments Mr Christie made in The Herald, where he urged men in leadership roles to step aside from the top of the party’s regional lists for next year’s Holyrood election.
The leading Glasgow activist specifically called on Mr Harvie and Mr Greer to make way for “radical women”, naming Ellie Gomersall and Iris Duane as “excellent candidates”. [Narrator - They were men]
https://archive.ph/0X50p

All this alongside the Mridul Wadhwa scandal with him standing for the Scottish Greens. Separate thread here:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5361126-scottish-greens-find-a-candidate-more-electorally-suicide-than-sparkles

There is also Esme Houston who is standing as a candidate to get on the SG list in North East Scotland. Houston is the guy who organised the rally where a woman got attacked.

Feminist campaigner left with black eye after she was 'punched twice' by trans activist in Aberdeen
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/feminist-campaigner-left-black-eye-30540007

Don't think I shared this other article on the internal Green war:

Scottish Greens chaos as senior member QUITS claiming MSP process is rigged

James Puchowski, who stood for the Scottish Greens in Edinburgh West last year, sensationally quit the party in a row over MSP selections next year.

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/scottish-greens-chaos-senior-member-35402073

Feminist campaigner was 'punched twice' by trans activist in Aberdeen

Police Scotland is investigating after Julie Marshall was allegedly assaulted during a tussle over a banner at the Women Won't Wheesht rally in the city's Duthie Park on Sunday

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/feminist-campaigner-left-black-eye-30540007

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Hoosemover · 01/07/2025 08:57

fromorbit · 30/06/2025 09:02

Interesting article from The Times looking at the strong divisions inside the Greens. It skates over the way the gender wars are a deep part of the division inside the Greens. Harvie is just isn't sexist enough now it seems. It doesn't explore the number of predators within the Scottish Greens either:

Civil war at heart of the Green Party after Patrick Harvie’s exit
A bloc known as the Glasgow faction have derided Green MSPs such as Lorna Slater and Ross Greer as being responsible for coalition policy failures

https://archive.ph/QmQXd

Look like Scottish Tories msps aren’t the only ones that going to be fighting like cats in a bag.

fromorbit · 30/06/2025 09:02

Interesting article from The Times looking at the strong divisions inside the Greens. It skates over the way the gender wars are a deep part of the division inside the Greens. Harvie is just isn't sexist enough now it seems. It doesn't explore the number of predators within the Scottish Greens either:

Civil war at heart of the Green Party after Patrick Harvie’s exit
A bloc known as the Glasgow faction have derided Green MSPs such as Lorna Slater and Ross Greer as being responsible for coalition policy failures

https://archive.ph/QmQXd

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myplace · 20/06/2025 21:52

DuesToTheDirt · 20/06/2025 21:42

@myplace Aimee Challenor was English, not Scottish Greens.

Apologies. I forgot.

DuesToTheDirt · 20/06/2025 21:42

@myplace Aimee Challenor was English, not Scottish Greens.

myplace · 20/06/2025 21:32

fromorbit · 09/06/2025 17:28

The elections next year are going to be key. Some SNP people are blaming the loss of the byelection on the Greens assuming that the 695 votes would have gone to them. The SNP - Green rivalry already high after the Greens brought down Humza, looks likely to get stronger next year which is going to be significant as every vote will count.

With the rise of Reform as well and Scottish Labour and Tories desperate we can expect there to be more media coverage and drama than usual. So the Scottish Greens will get more of a spotlight and the other parties will be targeting them.

From all indications as pressure mounts the Scottish Greens are just going to double down on the crazy in the run up to the election. I mean Harvie being challenged by two trans males for his post for being a boring straight white man is something even Mumsnetters might have thought was a bit unlikely to happen.

With the recent demands that trans types be elevated inside the party there are bound to be some of them as Green candidates. On past trends the chances are high that at least one of those trans candidates for Holyrood is then exposed as a predator/creep when people are actually watching Scottish politics. I mean it has happened what 4 times now at least inside the Scottish Greens - Browning/Martin/Sparkles/Douglas.

Did you forget Aimee Challenor?

Waitwhat23 · 20/06/2025 21:10

Saw him described today as 'a smirk on the lookout for a personality' which made me laugh a lot.

DuesToTheDirt · 20/06/2025 20:55

Oh give it a rest Harvie! Fix the planet or do something else worthwhile.

Igneococcus · 20/06/2025 08:11

I'm so looking forward to the Green canvassers coming to my door before next year's election, they are the only ones who ever come around. It's going to be such fun.

fromorbit · 15/06/2025 09:04

Harvie and the two trans males in Glasgow are now facing a radical Green opponent for becoming an MSP - an actual WOMAN. Moreover one who actually has had a useful job. Scottish Greens meetings in Glasgow are going to be a bit fraught I suspect.

Seonad Hoy, Green councillor for Hillhead, is challenging for a top slot on the party’s list for the Glasgow Region.
Nominations for the list have now opened and the 40 year-old Mum of two is declaring her intention and wants to be the first Green female MSP for Glasgow.

Hoy was elected to the council in a by-election in March last year, leaving her job with social landlord Wheatley Goup.

“I have real-world experience from working in the social housing sector.

She said she has a “deep understanding “ of the issue relevant because “we have a housing emergency in Glasgow”

The councillor added: “I feel well placed at a national level to ensure housing gets the investment it requires.

“There’s such a big demand for social housing with people trapped in temporary accommodation, including thousands of children. It’s not good enough.”

She also said she would be a “local champion” for local authority funding looking to reform taxation for a fairer system.

Hoy said: “The current council tax is regressive. People who can't afford it paying more than they should be.”

First of all, candidates for the Greens are selected for the regional list and then from that ,the constituency candidates are chosen to contest the first past the post seats, of which there are eight in Glasgow.

Hoy said: “I would like to feature on the regional list for Glasgow. I hope we will elect more than one MSP in Glasgow.”

To have the best chance of Holyrood she would need the top spot, occupied by Patrick Harvie for the last 20 years.

She said: “Patrick has been inspirational,” but added, “There’s strong competition among the Green politicians in the city.”

The single mum with two young kids has identified areas of concern that need priority.

She added: “We have a high rate of child poverty. We need a strong focus on children. Our children are going to be picking up the pieces.”

Green councillor makes a pitch for Glasgow seat at Holyrood
https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/25235468.green-councillor-makes-pitch-glasgow-seat-holyrood/

Green councillor making pitch for Glasgow seat at Holyrood next year

A GLASGOW councillor is making a bid for a Holyrood seat.

https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/25235468.green-councillor-makes-pitch-glasgow-seat-holyrood/

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fromorbit · 11/06/2025 09:04

ArabellaScott · 09/06/2025 21:27

😂

Only the Beeb!

'Mr Harvie became the first openly bisexual MSP when he was elected to Holyrood in 2003.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg33x944l29o

I hereby apologise to Harvie for assuming his straightness.

However now we have to ask are the two trans males standing against him and suggesting he is not radical enough actually guilty of biphobia?

The research I did shows that Harvie is one of leading figures of the non-straight community in Scotland for years. I feel into the trap of judging by appearances. Maybe they are doing the same.

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ArabellaScott · 09/06/2025 21:27

Thatsrhesummeroverthen · 09/06/2025 21:14

Good lord, where did you look? 😱😃

😂

Only the Beeb!

'Mr Harvie became the first openly bisexual MSP when he was elected to Holyrood in 2003.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg33x944l29o

Thatsrhesummeroverthen · 09/06/2025 21:14

ArabellaScott · 09/06/2025 17:32

I believe Harvie identifies as bisexual. Or did the last time I looked.

Good lord, where did you look? 😱😃

ArabellaScott · 09/06/2025 17:32

I believe Harvie identifies as bisexual. Or did the last time I looked.

fromorbit · 09/06/2025 17:28

The elections next year are going to be key. Some SNP people are blaming the loss of the byelection on the Greens assuming that the 695 votes would have gone to them. The SNP - Green rivalry already high after the Greens brought down Humza, looks likely to get stronger next year which is going to be significant as every vote will count.

With the rise of Reform as well and Scottish Labour and Tories desperate we can expect there to be more media coverage and drama than usual. So the Scottish Greens will get more of a spotlight and the other parties will be targeting them.

From all indications as pressure mounts the Scottish Greens are just going to double down on the crazy in the run up to the election. I mean Harvie being challenged by two trans males for his post for being a boring straight white man is something even Mumsnetters might have thought was a bit unlikely to happen.

With the recent demands that trans types be elevated inside the party there are bound to be some of them as Green candidates. On past trends the chances are high that at least one of those trans candidates for Holyrood is then exposed as a predator/creep when people are actually watching Scottish politics. I mean it has happened what 4 times now at least inside the Scottish Greens - Browning/Martin/Sparkles/Douglas.

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Hoardasurass · 09/06/2025 14:11

fromorbit · 09/06/2025 12:40

The complaints against Chapman make sense. Bullies generally believe themselves to above the law and regulations. See her wider attitude towards the rule of law in her attack on the Supreme Court and her general attitude to criticism.

Anyway more internal drama for the Greens.

Her TRA credentials are on display for all to see as targeting people's employment is a classic TRA tactic

TopographicalTime · 09/06/2025 13:58

SternJoyousBee · 09/06/2025 12:50

Should I be shocked that as many as 695 people voted for the Green candidate in Hamilton?

Well the Green's vote share fell from 5.2% of votes in 2021 to 2.6% in the recent by-election. Reform picked up 7088 (likely mostly ex-SNP voters and Conservatives). So a mixed bag.

ArabellaScott · 09/06/2025 13:39

Most Green Party members are unaware of the internecine drama and half of the fuckery that goes on, let alone random voters.

Most Green voters still assume the party is all about the environment.

SternJoyousBee · 09/06/2025 12:50

Should I be shocked that as many as 695 people voted for the Green candidate in Hamilton?

fromorbit · 09/06/2025 12:40

The complaints against Chapman make sense. Bullies generally believe themselves to above the law and regulations. See her wider attitude towards the rule of law in her attack on the Supreme Court and her general attitude to criticism.

Anyway more internal drama for the Greens.

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PaterPower · 09/06/2025 10:21

WarriorN · 12/04/2025 11:45

Full length photo of the individual in skin tight leather trousers (or vegan alt. Which is probably plastic.)

https://x.com/iangee2023/status/1910759246838260112?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

Best, er… foot forwards, and all that.

Waitwhat23 · 08/06/2025 19:11

Mad Maggie Chapman at it again -
'Scottish Greens probe bullying complaint against MSP Maggie Chapman'
https://archive.ph/G3s3P

Edited to add that I've just realised Arabella had already posted this 🤦‍♀️

ArabellaScott · 08/06/2025 15:19

Ruh-roh

https://archive.ph/G3s3P

'THE <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/G3s3P/www.thenational.scot/topics/scottish-greens/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Scottish Greens are investigating a bullying complaint against MSP <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/G3s3P/www.thenational.scot/politics/maggie-chapman/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Maggie Chapman, the Sunday National has learned.
Documents shared with this paper allege that the MSP contacted the place of work of Green activist Guy Ingerson in October 2024 to suggest that he “was untrustworthy and should be ‘watched’”.
Ingerson is named as the complainer in the documents, which the Sunday National understands were brought before the Greens’ Conducts and Complaints Committee last week.

The complaint reads: “On October 15, 2024, I was informed by my line manager that Ms Chapman had raised concerns to my place of employment, [redacted]. This involved speaking with a board member of the organisation and insinuating that I was untrustworthy and should be ‘watched’.
“The full details of this incident can be provided to the CCC upon request. A contact has been provided. I am currently in my probation period with my new employer, and this could have resulted in my termination.
“This act shows an escalation of the malicious behaviour described previously and is a serious breach of the Code of Conduct.”
The document makes reference to a separate complaint put in by Chapman against Ingerson, which the Sunday National understands was ultimately dismissed.
It states: “There was also an instruction to take pictures etc of Ms Chapman at any event in which we are both in attendance, regardless of the capacity I may be there in.
“As well as being a highly inappropriate attempt to force me to work for the party outside of party-related events, this unreasonable expectation formed part of the complaint Ms Chapman had made against me.”
Other allegations in the complaint relate to disagreements around social media output or internal party processes about motions to be heard at conference.
Green co-leader and MSP <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/G3s3P/www.thenational.scot/topics/patrick-harvie/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patrick Harvie and MSP Mark Ruskell are both named as witnesses in the documents.

Ingerson was second on the Greens’ North East Scotland regional list in the 2021 <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/G3s3P/www.thenational.scot/topics/holyrood/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Holyrood elections, and is believed to be bidding to take the top spot from Chapman for the 2026 vote.
One source who has worked with both dismissed the idea that the latest bullying complaint was simply part of a selection battle between the two, saying: “I have seen tit-for-tat selection battles and this isn’t one.”
They said that while they have seen “malicious complaints about [Chapman] in the past”, they believed this was “legitimate”.
Both Ingerson and Chapman declined to comment in detail on the complaint.
Chapman said: “I cannot comment on anything that has been raised with the Conduct and Complaints Committee to review as this is an internal party process that is dealt with in private, and that must be respected.”
And Ingerson said: “I won't comment on internal party processes, but I will make the general point that bullying is unacceptable in any political party and in any workplace.”

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