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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Women's rights general conversations - Thread 10

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Kucinghitam · 10/04/2025 11:08

Continuation of Thread 9.

There is so much excellent information and so many active discussions on FWR that I wondered if it would be useful to have a thread to sort of "cross-fertilise" between them - airing little thoughts or vignettes that wouldn't themselves merit their own thread, to highlight other posts/threads of particular interest or to point to notable developments on fast-moving threads so that casual observers know where to look.

(For example, "the X thread has meandered onto a fascinating discussion of Y" or "Poster P's amazing analysis on thread Z might have relevance to the scenario in thread W" or "Has anybody noticed this recurring theme that keeps coming up??" or even "Random bloke asked me to smile while I was choosing onions in the supermarket, grr"- that sort of thing).

Women's rights general conversations - Thread 9 | Mumsnet

Continuation of Thread 8. There is so much excellent information and so many active discussions on FWR that I wondered if it would be useful to have...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5132652-womens-rights-general-conversations-thread-9?

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Bertiebiscuit · 21/02/2026 20:48

There are no "trans" people. There are only men and women. It's not possible for humans to "trans". No matter what a person wears, no matter how much money is wasted on unconvincing plastic surgery, men are born as boy babies and women are born as girl babies and nothing can change that. Humans cannot "change" sex any more than they can change ethnicity, age, or species. It's all lies. "Transgenderism" is similar to believing in fairies, ghosts, god, magic, star signs or witchcraft. Just made up con trick nonsense. Usually by men for their benefit.

lcakethereforeIam · 21/02/2026 17:37

I think many women sometimes feel that way.

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 21/02/2026 16:42

of a cliff

off ffs.

Britinme · 21/02/2026 16:34

I wonder if stunningly beautiful women ever feel the same way.

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 21/02/2026 16:08

I saw that earlier and felt really sorry for the female tortoises. Imagine being pestered by so many males you jump of a cliff.

moto748e · 21/02/2026 13:45

I never knew tortoises were reptiles! Or perhaps I'd just never thought about it before.

moto748e · 19/02/2026 23:37

It seems Lammy has stopped the deletion although I can't find anything on the BBC site.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/02/19/david-lammy-u-turns-deleting-grooming-gang-courts-archive/

kittykarate · 19/02/2026 16:50

I note that the multi-talented(?) Jordan Grey has a gig in Manchester on the 20th Feb. I was informed of this by a seat filling website who is doing the tickets at booking fee only, rather than the retail £24.

moto748e · 18/02/2026 23:30

Have we had this? If this link works.

https://archive.ph/rscoI

Court archive revealing extent of grooming gangs scandal to be deleted. Sounds appalling on the face of it, especially in light of an enquiry going on.

moto748e · 12/02/2026 23:43

Had a nice parcel arrive today with this rather lovely badge and more postcards and stuff. There's a long way to go, though.

Women's rights general conversations - Thread 10
SinnerBoy · 05/02/2026 08:55

Yes, I'd agree with that, they tend to become polarised immediately. I read the first few pages, then bowed out.

moto748e · 04/02/2026 11:42

Heh! I've found in the past with similar threads, reading them is just depressing, so I'd prefer to read something else.

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 04/02/2026 11:27

Or a suit of armour.

Kucinghitam · 04/02/2026 10:51

moto748e · 04/02/2026 10:15

I think I'll skip that one!

Grin Or don a hard hat Grin

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moto748e · 04/02/2026 10:15

I think I'll skip that one!

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SqueakyDinosaur · 30/01/2026 12:25

YorkshirePuddingsGreatestFan · 20/12/2025 17:32

I'm divorced.

A relative still sends me birthday and Christmas cards addressed to Mrs his initial, his surname.

It really pisses me off and I find it upsetting seeing his name as we divorced due to his violence towards me.

I've asked them not to do it and explained why, but apparently that is correct etiquette which counts for more than my feelings.

It's absolutely not correct etiquette. However old-fashioned one is, correct etiquette for a no-longer-married (i.e. widowed or divorced) woman addresses her as Mrs Herfirstname Hissurname..

(gleaned from obsessional reading in my youth of a book about etiquette given to my parents as a joke wedding present)

Unless you have a particular reason for wanting to stay in touch, @YorkshirePuddingsGreatestFan, I would be returning to sender marked Not At This Address. Your name is YOUR name. Your relative doesn't get to pick it for you.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 30/01/2026 11:49

Architects can't do anything about the ones that started as perfectly legal single-sex loos, which the schools have then changed the signs on.

moto748e · 30/01/2026 10:52

I've worked with architects in the past (building and civil engineering field), and that's what I would have thought too. But then I read about all these schools which have non-legal toilets and changing-rooms, and wonder how that comes about. Someone has drawn up the plans, someone has signed off on them.

Britinme · 30/01/2026 02:52

My DH is an architect. There are a lot of building codes they have to follow, and they have to follow whatever the laws are in the place where they are licensed and also what the client wants them to do. There’s not much wiggle room for personal opinions.

moto748e · 30/01/2026 01:23

I don't know if there is a thread in this, but it struck me, seeing posts on SM about new builds in schools, and the toilet arrangements; where are RIBA on this? Architects design the buildings we all use, surely their members should be working in accordance with the law? Are they captured?

SqueakyDinosaur · 29/01/2026 22:06

Another vv interesting Reddit thread here: https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/1qncy55/do_we_ever_tell_anyone_they_are_not_transgender/

A lot of the commentators seem to be medics. I found the group 1 vs group 2 discussion early in the thread interesting -

"YES. I have had this discussion with a number of trans people. Being a trans paramedic myself, I've seen it in friends and patients too.
Group 1: is the generally more binary, focusing on passing/fitting in, and exhibit significant distress with delays or difficulties in transitioning
Group 2: more of the radical acceptance, more likely to be wishy-washy on transitioning or exhibit less distress with not transitioning.
This bimodal distribution should inform the care plan, imo. This stuff would be a giant can of worms in any trans discourse space, but it's a real thing."

DontStopMe · 29/01/2026 14:14

I do wonder what future generations will think of it all. Will they get the full details that 0.02% of people identified as 'potato', or will they just see that a certain number reported themselves as 'other'.

SinnerBoy · 29/01/2026 14:03

Oh, that's very good.

Starting in 2021, the CES instead asked “What is your gender?” with four options: “Man,” “Woman,” “Non-binary,” and “Other.” When respondents chose “Other,” they could then type in the term of their choosing.

Several people, though, took the opportunity to protest the question, often loudly. “Humans don’t have gender, they have sex,” wrote one. “There should only be two answers to this question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” wrote another, with too many exclamation points to easily count. There were several variations on this theme: “Man, the only other real choice is woman. The rest is insanity,” “My gender is not ‘woman.’ My sex is female,” “Gender is bullshit, sex is real,” “I have no gender. I am an adult human female,”

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