Women's rights general conversations - Thread 10

NAMALT? Prosaic, I know.

Here's a fun game for a Friday morning.

If the opening post is:

"Driving home from work tonight to the main news stories on the radio being 1) man tortures adopted baby to death and 2) man arrested after child ends up in crocodile enclosure at zoo.I am absolutely sick of the daily onslaught of problematic men, monsters, committing outrages.

That’s all, no suggestions, just AIBU to be sickened by this constant stream of beasts who live amongst us (Gisele Pelicot’s husband, recent terrorist attacks, daily murders of women by men) combined with personal experiences of men who ‘you wouldn’t have thought it to look at him’ turning out to be sex pests and paedophiles is putting me right off them as a sex class. Not your man, not your son, not my (lovely) Dad, but all the other men… how do we know which ones?

Its hard not to conclude it’s a man problem."

Can you guess the first reply?

I've seen articles about hospitals being forced to set up detransition services because they'd committed medical insurance fraud. Perhaps it was due to shenanigans like this?

Yes, US for the ones I saw. Largely because of insurance rules that covered 'hormone deficiency' but not transition.

Ah, OK. Thanks for follow-up.

Reports I saw were in the US.

Some gender clinics did similar to Webberly when they were banned from prescribing cross sex hormones to children. Recorded girls as being boys with low testosterone in their medical records so they could continue giving them cross sex hormones.

In the UK? Link to evidence please. If true this would be illegal & professional suicide for the HCPs involved.

Some gender clinics did similar to Webberly when they were banned from prescribing cross sex hormones to children. Recorded girls as being boys with low testosterone in their medical records so they could continue giving them cross sex hormones.

OMG - no words 😱😡

I kept getting her on my FB feed. I blame MN! It's all Helen Webberley and Tasmanian feminists! I have blocked her,now.

Calm yourself my love. No teenage girls are having their healthy breasts removed, just teenage boys are having their gynaecomastia resolved so they can live in freedom in their bodies.

Just came across this tweet by Helen Webberly. When she says teenage boys she is of course talking about trans identified teenage girls

I've finished book one. I enjoyed it enough to want to read the next in the series. There was a bit about the way the ETO mostly found it's home with the elite that didn't half remind me of...something🤔

I watched the Western version. Fwir I thought it was a bit of a curate's egg. I'd be interested in seeing the Chinese version, but not before I've finished the books.

I watched the first season on Netflix, there are two more to come - a friend has watched the Chinese version which is apparently very true to the books - 30 episodes and very detailed, etc. Might have to give that a whirl.

It is worth it.

I'm going to persevere with it.

I rather enjoyed 3BP. It takes a wee minute to get going, but worth it. I then read everything by Liu Cixin (that he's published in english)

I've started reading The Three Body Problem. It's not totally grabbed me yet which might explain why my mind wandered to the gold discs that were sent with the Voyager spacecraft. The information included outline drawings of a male and a female. No non-binary nonsense. Apparently they were a big squeamish about including actual nude pictures. What information would be on these discs if they were to be encoded today? Are the Voyager spacecraft transphobic?

The trouble with casting trans actors in detective dramas is that if someone is introduced as a character's mother, and plainly isn't and could never have been anyone's mother, you spend the rest of the episode wondering whether it's a plot point or whether we're meant to pretend he genuinely passes.

Saw one in the wild while I was out shopping this morning.

He was about six and a half foot tall wearing a sun dress and sandals. He had broad manly shoulders and big manly feet.

Changing gender is never going to change the size of your body. He's never going to be able to reduce his height, build and body dimensions to an average woman size. It doesn't matter what he wears, he's always going to look like a man in a dress. I just don't understand how they think we must believe they are women when in cases like this, clearly they're not.

He was also prancing around in a girly way doing hair flicks and doing coquettish smiles at men. I mean we all behave like that when we're shopping in Boots don't we? 🙄

There’s also an email address that I’ve seen so I sent a response.

Very little reaction on Threads in either direction.

Unions are just hopeless, aren't they?

Watching the women's Challenge Cup Final, and Wigan are putting a great show in the sunshine, well on the way to the first part of a double if the men's team can see off Hull KR this afternoon.

Unison (the union) have a post up on both x and bluesky asking members to support them in opposing the FWS judgment. On X it has 1.5k responses pretty much universally telling them to fuck off; on bluesky it has 20 responses which have already degenerated into infighting about what is transphobia.

Thanks, that was interesting and confirmed what we've been saying. It was good to read the actual, real experiences of those who've been through that mill.