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Women's rights general conversations - Thread 10

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Kucinghitam · 10/04/2025 11:08

Continuation of Thread 9.

There is so much excellent information and so many active discussions on FWR that I wondered if it would be useful to have a thread to sort of "cross-fertilise" between them - airing little thoughts or vignettes that wouldn't themselves merit their own thread, to highlight other posts/threads of particular interest or to point to notable developments on fast-moving threads so that casual observers know where to look.

(For example, "the X thread has meandered onto a fascinating discussion of Y" or "Poster P's amazing analysis on thread Z might have relevance to the scenario in thread W" or "Has anybody noticed this recurring theme that keeps coming up??" or even "Random bloke asked me to smile while I was choosing onions in the supermarket, grr"- that sort of thing).

Women's rights general conversations - Thread 9 | Mumsnet

Continuation of Thread 8. There is so much excellent information and so many active discussions on FWR that I wondered if it would be useful to have...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5132652-womens-rights-general-conversations-thread-9?

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TakingMyChancesWithTheRabbits · 25/08/2025 16:35

The green C on the second line is making me twitch.

FlowerUser · 25/08/2025 12:16

I made a meme.

Women's rights general conversations - Thread 10
FlowerUser · 25/08/2025 11:50

DeanElderberry · 24/08/2025 21:19

They can never cope with the idea that being sex-realist or gender critical means believing that gender-based characteristics are a bunch of stereotypes that some people like to buy into that do not change anyone's sex or give them a right to access any single-sex spaces or activities.

And that the rest of us should not be obliged to subsidise.

This.

The most perfect summary of the women’s rights movement.

DeanElderberry · 24/08/2025 21:19

They can never cope with the idea that being sex-realist or gender critical means believing that gender-based characteristics are a bunch of stereotypes that some people like to buy into that do not change anyone's sex or give them a right to access any single-sex spaces or activities.

And that the rest of us should not be obliged to subsidise.

lcakethereforeIam · 24/08/2025 19:31

I didn't know the US has National Women's Hall of Fame...or it did until 2024 when they induced a bloke. Apparently he's essential for understanding womanhood. Bloke doing peak mansplaining. Currently living in a throuple.

Women's rights general conversations - Thread 10
Heggettypeg · 24/08/2025 14:35

bignosebignose · 24/08/2025 14:21

This brought back memories of earlier discussions where people said that sport would be the thing that blew the lid off this nonsense in the eyes of the general public, because everyone - including men - could see what a pisstake it would be to allow males to infiltrate women’s sports. Anyway, a good read….

archive.ph/2025.08.24-103303/www.telegraph.co.uk/sailing/2025/08/24/tracy-edwards-trans-activists-fights-back/

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That was a good read. Thank you.

bignosebignose · 24/08/2025 14:21

This brought back memories of earlier discussions where people said that sport would be the thing that blew the lid off this nonsense in the eyes of the general public, because everyone - including men - could see what a pisstake it would be to allow males to infiltrate women’s sports. Anyway, a good read….

archive.ph/2025.08.24-103303/www.telegraph.co.uk/sailing/2025/08/24/tracy-edwards-trans-activists-fights-back/

YorkshirePuddingsGreatestFan · 18/08/2025 20:02

Saw a transwoman in Tesco today. I kept bumping into them as we were taking a similar route around the store.

He was over 6ft tall and heavy built and I'd guess around late 50s in age. He had long hair tied in school girl bunches and was wearing a spaghetti strap sundress and strappy sandals. He had a male face with stubble, a flat chest with chest hair coming out of the top of the dress and hairy male feet.

What I noticed though was his behaviour in the shop. Most people just wander around with their trolley and maybe ask the odd question to staff when they need help finding something.

He was going around staring at customers and deliberately trying to make eye contact in an intimidating way so he could start up a conversation. He spoke to every staff member he saw. Every time I overheard him, he was telling people he was a woman and he loved sundresses.

He just came over as creepy and weird. Ordinary biological women don't behave like that. They just go in and do their shopping without any fuss. It's like he was demanding attention from people in the shop to validate his perception that he is a woman.

ErrolTheDragon · 18/08/2025 17:26

NoBinturongsHereMate · 18/08/2025 16:07

Unfortunately, unless they have a written definition of wormen one can't safely assume anything.

Indeed. Quite a few of the categories explicitly say ‘female’ so we can hope.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 18/08/2025 16:07

Unfortunately, unless they have a written definition of wormen one can't safely assume anything.

Britinme · 16/08/2025 13:50

I love this line from Ditum’s column: “ The Sturgeon version of feminism is little more than a childish excuse for her own failings: a big patriarchy did it and ran away.”

BezMills · 16/08/2025 09:23

ErrolTheDragon · 16/08/2025 09:01

That was a lovely passing sideswipe.

Also damning Sturgeon with the faint praise of being slightly better than Johnson

ErrolTheDragon · 16/08/2025 09:01

TakingMyChancesWithTheRabbits · 16/08/2025 06:59

My favourite bit of the JKR review is actually the bit taking the piss out of Boris

That was a lovely passing sideswipe.

anyolddinosaur · 16/08/2025 08:21

Stock's ending was just brilliant.

TakingMyChancesWithTheRabbits · 16/08/2025 06:59

My favourite bit of the JKR review is actually the bit taking the piss out of Boris

FarriersGirl · 15/08/2025 17:01

Thanks for the Kathleen Stock review. She is another fantastic wordsmith.

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 15/08/2025 10:27

The last two sentences, oh god...😬

"If Frankly is anything to go by, then, strictly speaking Sturgeon never did have imposter syndrome. To have that particular malaise, your nagging suspicion you aren’t really up to the task has to be wrong."

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 15/08/2025 10:23

Thanks, bignosebignose - nice to see you!

The review by Kathleen Stock is harsher on Sturgeon that JKR's, far more critical and goes into more detail. I love them both, though.

Anyone know what the numbers are on how many copies have been sold?

bignosebignose · 15/08/2025 10:00

Kathleen Stock also putting the boot into Nicola.

https://archive.ph/HapPo

FlowerUser · 15/08/2025 08:47

anyolddinosaur · 15/08/2025 08:21

Apart from one fuckwit no swearing, I'd expected more 😀

There is also a “clusterfuck”, but if it were very sweary she would be criticised for it.

Great takedown.

BezMills · 15/08/2025 08:37

Greetings @bignosebignose

SqueakyDinosaur · 15/08/2025 08:37

She has been annotating her copy and is going to auction it for charity. There's plenty of swearing there - she posted a photo on X of a page where she's written ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!! across the top....