Government on child sex abuse and rape gangs - new authority set up, gang enquiries dropped.

I think Jess Phillips will lose to an independent at the next election.

I do agree she is not suitable for the role from the perspective of the public and the victims and those who need safeguarding. From Labours perspective she is clearly prepared to back track on her principles and change policy and not fight for the rape victims so maybe, to them, she is ideal? She is doing her best for rapists and those that collude with rapists. She isn’t causing the party any real bother. And if public pressure is too much they can back track by sacking her from the role.

I think that Voting should be in person only with passport / driving licence or two forms of address ID. Postal for disabled with very strict guidelines.

Community block votes may mean women and vulnerable people (especially) are not able to vote how they want to vote. How is this block vote even allowed?

Jess Philips isn’t suitable for this role.

Because most of them aren’t otherwise employable.

Absolutely. After listening to Katie Lam's powerful and harrowing speech I want to write to my MP but I can predict the response.

It is all about careers, not constituents.

The thing about Jess is that she was happy to use the Muslim block voting when it suited her. She never express any concern about the intimation Muslim might have faced to give their postal vote to 'community leaders'.

She never thought about what would happen if these community leaders felt they didnt need her or the labour party anymore.

And then she has the confidence to take a safeguarding role?

It is perfectly understandable that she is terrified. She knows who is running things in her constituency and how powerful and scary they are.

Its way passed the stage of an inquiry or even discussing it leading to community tension. And the political class know this.

What they are doing it protecting their own. Its the cover up that it making people angry and the fact that there is nothing in place to stop this continuing to happen. Because no one is willing to acknowledge how it happened.

To be fair, jess phillips and the others sitting with her when she made the announcement looked beaten. And she looked terrified at her speech on election night. She probably knows more than anyone, but she also knows that even if she loses her seat, theres a chance of a consolation peerage.

How are those men any different to Andrew Tate, Cyril Smith or Jimmy Saville? (just to give 3 examples).

It is corruption and collusion on a massive scale.
Watching Jess Phillips on election night was very telling.
Pandering for votes is the top priority.
Neither she nor the labour party care anything for women and children.
I agree with pp that it is all very similar to the recent infiltration of institutions by TRAs.

I remember having conversations with friends and relatives in the area about these gangs decades ago. The police and local government were colluding with it then and will continue to do so.

@ArabellaScott
sorry for misunderstanding your post. Thank you for posting on this topic and for the links.

It’s also inconceivable that the men involved couldn’t have been / wouldn’t have been offending much closer to home. This is what sexual predators do. They test boundaries and then they escalate. The idea it’s only white girls most likely doesn’t stack up.

And anyway, even if it is only white girls. Then what? Fuck em, they don’t count?

Just saw that Yvette Cooper mentioned ‘misinformation’ on GB news today. Does Misinformation = we know our actions are immoral.

It seems that once again they are trying to stop discussions and being held to account for their decisions.

She didn’t mention grooming gangs or rape torture gangs instead using child exploitation. Yvette has sold out our girls. Those who believe government propaganda and those who empathise with the rapists may see it as misinformation but many decent people see the truth.

We may as well pay the rape gangs to investigate themselves.

I will write to my Labour MP today. Asking them to watch Lam in parliament and to speak out to protect our children against grooming gangs.

Does anyone know of anything else we can do? These girls matter to me. I believe them. They deserve an inquiry and criminals / any officials involved to face the courts.

Did the rapists think about community tensions? Why wasn’t it a priority to them but it’s important for victims to consider how their assault may affect tensions in the community.

Did the rapists, and those families and friends who covered up for rapists plus the police and the councils and MPs think about the white and Sikh families and communities who’s lives may be affected forever due to the crimes?

Why do we need to prioritise community tensions over tortured raped children. Surely the communities want the criminals locking up? This prioritising community over victim is what I mean. British society has clearly lost sense of what is right and wrong.

If a person gang rapes and tortures they should be imprisoned regardless of age, sex, nationality, race, religion and political persuasion. It is a crime. We are meant to be a civilised country. Rape and torture is illegal.

If a sector of society is committing mass gang rape and torture it needs investigating. The fact we worry more about tension than rape shows something is wrong. It needs a full government inquiry.

The alternative is to say ‘it’s okay in the UK for some men to torture some of our kids and the authorities and public will turn a blind eye’.

"It suggests we may have very corrupt politicians, councils and police".

Yes indeed.

Exactly - the report didn’t look at Pakistani rape gangs. People who say ‘we already had an inquiry’ either believe the government propaganda or sympathise with male rapists. Because it did not investigate rape gangs that operate all over our country and appear to be covered up by those that could stop it.

The lack of discussion on this parenting website about this rape and torture of girls is awful too. Imagine being one of the victims- no one cared about them then and no one cares about them now.

As a nation we are clearly in a very bad place. Have we lost our morals and sense of what is right and wrong? How did this happen? How can we think we are a serious western country with values? Other countries must be appalled by the U.K.

Who would visit a country who doesn’t protect the human rights of its own children? Instead they prefer to defend the gang rapists who nail girls tongues to tables.

@TheCatsTongue Thank you for sharing the video I will watch later.

@endofthelinefinally I’m not sure if you are from one of the areas affected. Who is threatening the law abiding citizens? The Pakistani community or the Police or Council? This needs investigating too. It suggests we may have very corrupt politicians, councils and police.

It reminds me of the beginning of the transgender debate - using words like bigots, far right = shut up about what you can see in front of you.

Sod community tensions. This quote accidentally sounds like an old Norm McDonald joke

The one and only priority should be investigating the industrialised gang rape of oft impoverished and always vulnerable girls.

If said investigation exposes societal fault lines, political class complicity or the second coming of Satan himself, I don't care. The cracks are already there - not looking at them doesn't solve a thing.

The only things that matter is ensuring this stops, punishing those who transgressed or enabled transgression, and healing the victims.

In my view their aren't enough gallows left in the world for what should happen as a consequence for the reported offences, but I'd accept whole-life sentences in vile and cheap facilities as a substitute.

That is a very good video and explains what local people have known for decades.

The national enquiry that was held looked into the general theme of child abuse, focusing on areas like the Church. The grooming gangs received about one page of investigation and looked at one specific area in the country over a specific three year period.

Essentially there has never been a national enquiry into grooming gangs, people who claim that there has been are people who do not want this issue investigated.

Seems like Birmingham MP Jess Phillips is doing so much recently, not bothering with the bin problems in her constituency and not helping sexual abuse victims as her role of safeguarding minister.

Watch the video below and you'll understand what is actually happening and why Labour don't want to go anywhere near it:

The local, law abiding citizens have silenced, threatened and vilified for decades whenever they try to speak up. They move away if they can or keep their heads down and keep quiet.

We need to ask ourselves how the U.K. has got to the point where our politicians will not investigate mass gang rape and torture of white and Sikh vulnerable minors for fear of upsetting Pakistani male rapists and their supporters.

The cover up is a disgrace.
The last ‘inquiry’ had many failures.
Trevor Phillips is spot on.
Katie Lam was excellent.
Lowes crowdfunder may amount to nothing but good on someone for trying and at the very least keeping it in the public domain.

One of the victims from Dewsbury was told by her rapist: “We're here to fuck all the white girls and fuck the Government.” This sounds like they rape and torture to demoralise the population and cause a problem for the authority. Why?

We need to know why so many men were prepared to gang rape. Why they gang raped with family - brothers and fathers. Is watching your family rape and torture someone normal? How do people get to this point. A one off family is disgusting. But this was in multiple towns with so many men. It seems common. Why didn’t others report them?

We need to know which officials covered it up and why. They need prosecuting too.

We also need to know why so many law abiding citizens are prepared to still sweep this under the carpet in the name of multiculturalism.

White girls were tortured and raped on a very large scale. This will have ruined numerous lives. (It costs the UK state money in medical, law, lost future income etc if you want to look at more widespread impact). Labour and anyone defending or rug sweeping should be ashamed of themselves. These are serious widespread crimes committed on white girls and Sikh girls.

If this is where we are in 2025 where will be be in 5 years? 10 years? 15? Because it’s not looking a like great future for women and girls.

If anyone hasn’t heard Lam in parliament it’s worth a listen.

Labour are scared of losing the Muslim vote. They'd rather turn a blind eye.

I fully fully support proper enquiries for these girls. It's quite likely some politicians and police who helped cover it up are still employed and many other areas were as bad as Rotherham. Never again. There's also still the possibility of prosecutions.

R.e. taxis it reminds me of a local news story of how known sex offenders were given taxi licences where I used to live: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-29118949 A committee were shown the offences and still gave them a licence. No consequences for them.

Taxis and fast food places.