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Anyone else worried Trump’s advocacy of gender-critical views taints and discredits them?

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PotteringPondering · 27/03/2025 03:52

I’m gender-critical, and was pleased when Trump issued his early Executive Orders on Protecting Children from Chemical and Surgical Mutilation, and Keeping Men Out of Women’s Sports.

But now… everything else. The sickening bullying of Zelensky and support for Putin, the threats to invade allies, the insults, lies, laziness, lawbreaking, cruelty and incompetence.

I’m concerned the fact Trump is an advocate of gender-critical views taints and discredits them in the eyes of thinking people. The verdict of history may be harsh because of the Trump connection.

I’m a resident of Terf Island, and still passionately hold GC views. But the support of Trump and Vance is starting to feel less like a blessing, more like a kiss of death.

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TheMarbleRun · 27/03/2025 07:13

I totally understand your nuanced view. I was also very impressed by the clarity of the EO regarding sport, female spaces, children "medicine", and part of me also worries that the democrats might become even more resistant to change, because of Trump's behaviour on all the rest. (BTW, I'm in the UK, so I can't claim I understand all the nuances of the US political landscape).

However, there are a few things that will, in my opinion, have long lasting effects. Some examples: the inquests on gender medicine, the lengthening of the statute of limitation for medical malpractice will change US gender medicine in an irreversible way. Even without the EAs, whistleblowers will feel more supported, and insurances will start thinking.
I also don't think that sport rules will be changed back: it's not what the public and the athletes want, I suspect that most sport bodies were just waiting for an outside intervention to do the right thing.
Finally, the definition of woman and men is scientifically sound, simple and I think here to stay.

Maybe I'm too optimistic?

Somethingthecatdraggedin7 · 27/03/2025 07:01

I totally agree OP but you probably won’t get a good reception to that view here.

frenchnoodle · 27/03/2025 06:58

Trump is not gender critical and has nothing to do with the women, who are UK based, on this board.

I hope that helps.

RedHelenB · 27/03/2025 06:39

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/03/2025 06:14

Oh good it’s another one of these thread. Haven’t had one for at least oooh a few hours!

yes we should totally support signing over women’s rights ti men with lady feels and continue to let children be lied to & medicalised because Donald Trump tjinks the opposite

FFS

and for the avoidance of doubt for the hard of thinking DT is NOT gender critical. He’s a plain old basic sexist cunt who believes whole heartedly in gender stereotypes

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This.

Emilyschinchilla · 27/03/2025 06:34

What was the alternative? Harris and a continuation of women being deprioritized for men, and children’s lives destroyed for adult ideologies?

Things are so mad in USA that Trump, who doesn’t give a shit what anyone thinks, was probably the only one who was ever going to act on this issue

I’m hoping that, now that everyone has seen what gender bollocks actually means in practice, it will be too politically explosive for them to try to go back to how things were.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/03/2025 06:14

Oh good it’s another one of these thread. Haven’t had one for at least oooh a few hours!

yes we should totally support signing over women’s rights ti men with lady feels and continue to let children be lied to & medicalised because Donald Trump tjinks the opposite

FFS

and for the avoidance of doubt for the hard of thinking DT is NOT gender critical. He’s a plain old basic sexist cunt who believes whole heartedly in gender stereotypes

OldCrone · 27/03/2025 06:03

Do you really think that "thinking people" are going to start supporting the chemical and surgical mutilation of children and putting men in women's sports just because Trump is against those things?

What's your definition of "thinking people"? I don’t think it’s the same as mine.

BlondiePortz · 27/03/2025 04:41

I am not anything but accept there is a male sex and a female sex and someone identify as a sea urchin from Uranus as much as they want does not make them one, if they need Trump to educate them more than that have way bigger issues going on

MessinaBloom · 27/03/2025 04:38

SummerDaysOnTheWay · 27/03/2025 04:37

And he doesn’t seem harmless!

Nope.

SummerDaysOnTheWay · 27/03/2025 04:37

And he doesn’t seem harmless!

MessinaBloom · 27/03/2025 04:37

Sorry! I forgot that part! ‘It’s the fault of the left’

That is becoming a bit tired now. You might need to come up with something new.

SummerDaysOnTheWay · 27/03/2025 04:37

He’s not GC he’s bigoted.

MessinaBloom · 27/03/2025 04:35

Most posters will say something akin to it’s possible to agree with some things and not others. This is true, and it is also true that I also agree the two EOs you refer to are a good thing.

However, I also feel the two EOs were a form of exploitation and leverage. Trump knew these were trigger points, and it’s no accident that they were some of the first EOs he signed. He is exploiting women and children (remember the images of Trump surrounded by young girls at the signing?) for popularity.

Again, posters here might say it doesn’t matter as long as these things happen. I think it does. I’m not getting in bed with the wolf even though he seems harmless.

Snowypeaks · 27/03/2025 04:27

He's not an advocate of gender critical views.
He didn't invent sex realism, it's just common sense for the vast majority.
His foreign policy and support for Putin has no connection with being sex realist.
He's the same venal, unscrupulous bully he has been his whole life.

But if leftists keep pushing the idea that reality and women's rights are aspects of Trumpian politics, all they will do is make Trumpian politics seem more respectable because of being associated with something that is obviously and fundamentally true - that sex is material reality.

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