Anyone else worried Trump’s advocacy of gender-critical views taints and discredits them?

Is that what it sounds like to you? You haven't been paying attention then, have you? The only people we're 'siding with' are women.

It sounds like your so ideologically hostile to trans women that you're happy to side with a scamming, lying, war mongering abuser, rather than been accepting of your fellow human beings.

It sounds like your so ideologically hostile to trans women that you're happy to side with a scamming, lying, war mongering abuser, rather than been accepting of your fellow human beings.

Exactly. You know you have a problem when Trump's position comes across as more sane than yours.

I think my US friend would prefer to say 'equally insane'. Biden and the Democrat leads were earnestly insane re GI, Trump and Vance and Musk are insane in a more clearcut and venal way.

Yes! I like the way you put this. I was trying to figure out what exactly irks me about the Elon Musk’s son story that just came out. Why should I even care? But it does bother me so I guess that’s it. It’s that he is a dude. A guy! But I’m being asked to pretend he’s a young woman. And I just don’t want to. I don’t know exactly why I don’t want to but bottom line is, I don’t. It’s probably something primal to do with self preservation as men are so inherently dangerous for women and we need to be able to pick them out of a line up. And the trans brigade wants to tell me I’m a bad person because of that. So yes, I think for many people it’s the minor irritation even if it doesn’t massively impact them in everyday life, that’s enough to make this issue count politically.

I've been saying for years that once a government starts supporting what is plainly a lie they lose all credibility. The voters aren't completely stupid. Supporting an obvious lie and then expecting the population to go along with it, and refusing to fess up when challenged, is what tyrants and despots do. We all know politicians have to lie sometimes, but lying on this blatant and obvious scale was something that only the Putins and Saddam Husseins of this world did until gender ideology came along and made fools of Trudeau and Biden and the Labour Party, among others.

Now I hear this argument coming from all angles. People have woken up and wised up and want to force politicians back to reality and the only means of doing so was to choose the other nutter, as an American friend who lives over here, puts it.

7% of voters voted for / against Brexit on the basis of actual EU related issues. That's on both sides of the debate.

The official Vote Leave actively and openly have admitted that their campaign strategy was to tap into wider voter dissatisfaction - that includes everything from bins and pot holes to immigration policy.

The Brexit vote was known to be a watershed in terms of have international politics has played out. And it was nearly ten years ago now.

Yet so many people have not caught up with how the political landscape has changed and why voters vote the way they do.

Then COVID happened and compounded it.

Voters in the UK certainly are more likely to vote AGAINST someone than in a most positive way FOR someone. This caught the Labour party by surprise at the last election. They thought they'd have a resounding victory with everyone wanting them in power, and whilst they've managed to get a shed load of seats this election, their margin of victory is wafer thing. The reception has been luke warm at best. And incumbent governments tend to lose ground at subsequent elections.

This is due to a feeling of general mismanagement at local and national level - something again reflected in the US. And the response to that is to have an attitude of 'things are terrible so I might as well vote for radical change because it can't possibly get worse than this', rather than people voting FOR whatever changes are proposed. Most people don't even look too deeply at policy.

The trans issue therefore stands out particularly badly, and is somewhat unique, because you don't have to have an in-depth understanding of policy. It's easy to know you are being trained at work or seeing in sport or on TV that you are being told to ignore what you can see with your eyes and support an untruth. It gets under the skin and annoys people in a way that hospitals, or housing or jobs don't.

And yes it's a trust issue at it's core too because it feeds into this sense of mismanagement and corruption at the heart of established politics.

Until other parties can get to grips with this issue they are screwed and they don't seem, even after nearly ten years, to be fully grasping the nature of the problem...

Okay, I'm American, lesbian and a lifelong libertarian-conservative.
The obsession here is Trump's personality. No one cares, we're not dating him. He just gave back women's rights and sports and isn't afraid to withhold Federal dollars to make states, like Maine fall in line.
He's shut the border and shipped out illegal hard-core gang members and now the foreign students on visas who were running and participating in university shut downs and anti-Semitism. He's cutting government fraud and waste.
All of which the Democrats oppose. Their popularity has sunk to 26%. Lowest ever recorded.
In the US Trump is very popular.

Because women are not allowed to defend themselves. You are perfectly demonstrating Bewilderness's rules of misogyny on this subject.

Women not being allowed to name themselves. They are not allowed to name males patterns of abuse which have evidence to back up the fact they are sex based. Instead they are smeared for doing so as unreasonable and nasty.

Women have legitimate reasons to be concerned on these issues.

Not at all.

The extraordinary thing is not that Trump is a sex realist.

The extraordinary thing is that the Democrats are not.

So why did you bring it up? Are you implying that there are no women like that? Or that it isn't an example of an individual belief rather than something intrinsically connected to being GC?

Quite

"men are afraid of hurt feelings, women are afraid of men killing them"

Okay, I'm American, lesbian and a lifelong libertarian-conservative.
The obsession here is Trump's personality. No one cares, we're not dating him. He just gave back women's rights and sports and isn't afraid to withhold Federal dollars to make states, like Maine fall in line.
He's shut the border and shipped out illegal hard-core gang members and now the foreign students on visas who were running and participating in university shut downs and anti-Semitism. He's cutting government fraud and waste.
All of which the Democrats oppose. Their popularity has sunk to 26%. Lowest ever recorded.
In the US Trump is very popular.

Nobody cares because it's just about women😂

And what's a woman's ability to recognize female behavior, then?

12. Women’s ability to recognize male behavior patterns is misandry.