Trump team to stop family-planning funding as it reviews whether it’s being used for DEI programs

I already know that, but that doesn't or hasn't stopped politicians and activist continually targeting PP and calling for their closure. Adding another unfounded emotive accusation that they're sterilising children isn't helping. It's been a longheld argument that any government funding to PP could be reallocated to abortion which is why they don't want it to get any funding at all. Supporting any cuts to PP is not in the interest of women health or their rights.

PP is the biggest provider nationwide. There is no evidential basis to claiming their closure wouldn't impact women because you've named one state with other providers.

That's kind of how bodily autonomy works for adults, there's loads of procedures I don't think people should do but I'm not going to advocate for the state to prevent them doing it when the state can and will extend that to women's access to abortion. I haven't supported or argued against CSH, I'm saying if that's your focus over womens access to abortion care, and your happy for the nations largest provider to be scrapped, then women's rights aren't your priority

Such a nebulous question. I didn't make the assertion that children are being sterilised, perhaps those who have could tell us how many they believe it to be which justified them supporting PP being destroyed, then surely it's easier for me to agree or disagree with them when we know the scale. When you're advocating women affectively losing the right to abortion nationwide because there are no providers, are you saying that even 16 year old making a decision they could later regret is too many and therefore worth the sacrifice? If so, that's can be your opinion but your motivation certainly isn't protecting women's rights.

I'm sure you'll understand I have no wish to lay myself open to potential legal action either.

Sidestepping - don't make me laugh.

It is the dominant narrative of Mumsnet FWR to sidestep the huge issues impacting the health, wellbeing, social and economic rights of women by instead insisting on a myopic obsession with trans rights that plays right into the Trump playbook, shoring up his regime and legitimising his damaging policies, undermining women everywhere.

I don't see everything in a left wing / right wing view, but it would be unfactual to say the attack on abortion rights isn't coming from the right wing. Why is that verboten to say..?

I didn't say it was right wing to be against gender affirming care. Smearing a key organisation for women's healthcare with the kind of unfactual scare tactics words that mimic the right wing attacks on their abortion services is an odd choice when you claim to be pro women's rights.

That's a lot to post to answer that you don't know a number of children that were even patients let alone children sterilised. It's perfectly possible to say "I don't want PP to provide gender affirming care" without leaping to"this organisation sterilises children", just as anti choice campaigns could say they disagree with abortion without having to make up that PP is murdering babies for body parts.

Also, have you heard of Bill Cassidy before ?

Is saying it's dangerous to parrot right wing smearing of a service that is under constant attack by right wing groups because in most places it's the sole provider of abortion smearing UK feminists as right wing?

Spreading misinformation about planned parenthood is really intelligent of a board that claims to be feminist. I'm not sure how you think posting something like that makes you sound any different to the quacks who speak of PP murdering babies for body parts. Go on, how many children have they 'sterilised'?

And yet so many unprepared to stand up for the rights of millions of women to access life saving treatment, and happy to have this shut down for them.

I agree that anyone who thinks PP will be 'safe' if it stops providing cross-sex hormones is naive, or thinks other people are. Musk wasn't waving a chainsaw around for nothing. Paula Leslie flogging indulgences in the White House isn't a feminist act.

Musk says his child died because they transitioned. That IS anti trans.

But as long as PP is doing what they're doing, then they're giving the Republicans perfect cover, because what the Republicans are doing can be justified, and is right, regardless of motivation.

This is very naive, as though the republicans and right wing interests haven't been attacking PP relentlessly before the trans issue. You really think they would stop? Do you truly believe the Republicans actually have an issue solely with the 35k or so patients they see for hormones and not the millions of patients they see for contraception or abortion? Or have they just found an angle that has got you supporting the withdrawal of life saving services for women. PP have always operated on the principal of bodily autonomy and access to healthcare for our bodies whether people politically agree with it or not. As far as I can see, PP don't do puberty blockers. They do cross sex hormones for adults (and 16+ with parental consent), any argument you want to use to support revoking the right of those people to access that care because you dislike it could and is used to argue against access to contraception and abortion.

No threat whatsoever, just pointing out that Mumsnet are aware of how FWR is targeted, as it seems like many posters don't know this.

They have access to data on posting patterns, ISPs and use of VPNs.

I mean it sounds to me that folk are pointing out the bleeding obvious: that Mumsnet FWR is (and always has been) used by posters with an ultimate patriarchal agenda to manipulate those who are naive enough to believe that trans rights are the single biggest issue facing women today.

So that is used as a smokescreen to convince women to agree with the wholesale devastation of reproductive services that are proven to save lives.

Because someone, somewhere was given testosterone once, right? So therefore we must stop access to all those life saving abortions, contraception, support for rape victims, treatment and prevention of STIs.

This board is not populated in the main by women who care about women, it is populated by those fueling an agenda that will ultimately work against women. As this thread demonstrates.

Mumsnet HR are fully aware of this by the way, they have access to the posting stats.

I have seen no such suggestion.
From @IwantToRetire's OP:

The freeze to the Title X program could impact as much as $120 million worth of grants to a network of roughly 4,000 clinics providing free and discounted pregnancy testing, contraception, sexually transmitted infection (STI) testing and treatment, and evaluations and testing for infertility.

I have seen people seeming to justify Trump's cuts to women's services like PP because the cuts will also hit trans. That is mad.🤯 Women's rights and access to reproductive health services should not be used as a bargaining chip or collateral damage in the fight against trans encroachment.

Yes these cuts will piss off TRAs but they represent a massive loss to women. Such misogyny from the Trump administration is not a bug. It's a feature.

I'm aware of the board, OP posted this here because trumps actions in particular he is using the trans issue to garner women's support for their agenda.

The suggestion that just because people support Trump’s specific policies protecting women’s sport and the medicalisation of children means they will inevitably fall into support for everything Trump does is wildly bonkers.