Trump team to stop family-planning funding as it reviews whether it’s being used for DEI programs

Older teenagers, 16 to 18, are children in law.

It’s hard to understand why you dispute the use of the word.

No one is labelling you a predator, but there are other people who would dispute, for example, that sexual abuse of a person that age is CSA, for similar reasons that you deploy. Luckily they don’t have a leg to stand on, because the law is the law.

Teenagers ARE children! It's literally the DEFINITION of a teenager! A child!

One wonders why you are deliberately intent of saying children are not children. Why do that? What's your end game? Why are you pretending children are not children??

So - buried in this message above, are you labelling me a predator? Simply because I was disturbed by continued (deliberate) use on this thread of the word ‘children’ to describe older teenagers?

On the contrary - you're still trying to police this thread with your demands that we stop mentioning children despite posters giving a range of examples about why society must be able to distinguish between adults and children when discussing gender identity, transactivism, sex and sexuality, puberty blockers etc. You're alleging that these explanations are directed at you when posters have pointed out the dangers of your demands.

It's an uncomfortable truth that predators see children as targets, as mini adults, as consenting to sexual acts and it's vital that we're able to identify age related issues if we're to safeguard children. That applies on this thread as much as it does across society.

It's not personal - it's about children.

Someone doesn't understand how forums work....

”But stating facts accurately is very important in this debate.”

I agree, Keating. It is why many of us are also active in campaigning, isn’t it? To prioritise sex over gender when sex matters requires accurate language. Just as that same accuracy of language is needed to protect children. Particularly through safeguarding.

It is.

I guess using the word children makes it more difficult for people to gloss over what's actually happening, so they find it triggering.

But stating facts accurately is very important in this debate.

WTAF? No, I am posting in the discussion on this thread and responding to a poster who quoted me.

And why would I be goading you? I have been told by some posters recently that I have no idea who I am responding to because posters name change all the time. I haven’t interacted in any depth with you, Messinabloom, for a very long time. Why would I be goading you?

Or are you also responding to my second post asking about the link you posted, to help me work out what I was missing because I obviously was missing something. I asked twice in case you had missed the first time. However, I have left it at that.

@Helleofabore

You’re obviously attempting to goad me now.

True. And it has been said over so many threads that if you cannot use accurate language to describe a group, you cannot protect that group. Particularly from exploitation from whichever of the many different groups who seek to harm them.

It becomes very obvious that children quickly became the validating leverage for male adults who wished for society to accept their philosophical belief about their identity, doesn’t it? But the harms to children, of course, come from so many angles from just the groups activating for full and unquestioning acceptance of gender identity let alone any other group / purpose.

Are we still going with this? Really?

I wasn’t asking you.

Who said that?

This is absolutely disgraceful. I'm sure we can all agree on that.

Certain individuals in society don't like the word children because it thwarts their interests. Ugh.

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Talking of insurance, there are several states where astonishingly doctors are not required to have insurance. Florida, where that awful Irish surgeon is who advertises mastectomies on TikTok, is one of those. Moreover, Florida is also apparently one of the easiest places to put your assets beyond the reach of the court. This means you basically won’t get sued as you would legally protect nearly all your assets and lawyers, who would normally collect their fees from the win, would be looking for their hefty fees up front as there would be little chance of a payout.

https://palmerinjurylaw.com/injury-guide/malpractice-insurance/

Thank you to posters answering my question about the resumption of puberty, if kids come off medication.

Depressing but unsurprising that the proper studies are non-existent

I think it would be more accurate to replace ‘best practice’ with ‘unevidenced but financially lucrative quackery’

'37 % of transgender youth (ages 13-17) live in states that ban best practice medication and surgical care for transgender youth

3% of transgender youth (ages 13-17) live in states that ban best practice surgical care for transgender youth

60% of transgender youth (ages 13-17) live in states that do not ban best practice medical care for transgender youth'

Damn, won't somebody help the poor doctors remove children's sex organs?!

https://www.lgbtmap.org/equality-maps/healthcare_youth_medical_care_bans

Trying to find where I read about insurance, found a map of where evil people are restricting children's right to have surgery to fix their inner discomfort about gender stereotypes.

Tbh I think there was a recent change in the statute of limitations, and that is what is likely to end 'gender affirming' care very quickly. Insurers will not cover treatment that is so.poorly evidenced and risky.

You have yet to apologise for lying about children not being served by PP. So you are not in any position to ask for an apology until you give one.