Trump team to stop family-planning funding as it reviews whether it’s being used for DEI programs

Erm, hate to break it to you but DEI includes women too. It's not just about "trans."

I think it’s pretty settled, barring the usual contrary poster, that organisations like PP are transitioning children. The two questions still remain:

a) how much of the decision to target them from a DEI perspective is due to their child transition actions rather than just women’s services actions?

b) if they’re told it’s a major driver of the risk to their funding, will organisations like PP continue to risk women’s services due to their commitment to child transition or will they cut back on that to continue their primary goal?

No. The law needs changed. Cutting women's services will not stop children from being harmed.

But PP losing funding will, because they won’t be able to provide gender affirming services to children if they don’t have any funding. Cutting funding shouldn’t impact children being harmed from gender treatments, but in this case it will. It’s a conundrum for most.

Yes. Girls also access women's services. Planned Parenthood and other organisations in this field do not purport to offer women's health services. They actually do it.

Sorry, I wasn’t clear. Do you support the medical treatment of children for gender reasons with puberty blockers and CSH at a service that purporting to offer a women’s health service?

Because the life saving services they provide to women are needed now more than ever. The law can be changed with the stroke of Trump's sharpie. Women should not have to pay the price, when there's no evidence it will help, for child safeguarding.

But you haven’t been clear. You acknowledge they are harming children with gender treatments? But your issue is you don’t think stopping their funding will stop this harm? I think that’s understandable, but why do you think? Do you think they’ll just carry on transitioning children anyway?

It clearly states that PP offers puberty suppression to children who are “entering puberty”. Not in puberty. Not after puberty has started. They will offer puberty blockers in those circumstances, but they also offer puberty blockers to those children who are entering puberty. This is Tanner stage 2. This can be as young as 10-12. These are children.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5228623-trump-restoring-millions-in-family-planning-funds/

IANAAmerican, so I don't pretend to have a deep understanding of the system and the issues, but it seems that US politicians of both stripes use funding as a weapon.

This

its weird…not just on this board

But you said This is not about abortion access

You already covered abortion so I didn't think I needed to include it.

So not abortion?

Contraception.
Pregnancy monitoring.
STD testing.
Advice on addiction support.
Breastfeeding feeding.
Help with DV.
Research into DV during pregnancy.
Help for girls experiencing child sex abuse.
Pre and postnatal health.

And more.

life saving services
By which you mean....?

This is not about abortion access. This is about women's and girls rights to life saving services.

To pit one against the other is manipulative, abusive and damaging to all.

It's under DEI. In case you havent noticed the sex class women fall under DEI. Womens services are being cut because they're women's services. Women's accomplishments are being erased from records because of DEI. Women are losing their jobs because of DEI. Women and girls will lose their lives because of Trump's purge of what he sees as DEI.

But you prioritise the women over the girls, right? Abortion access for women over the prevention of harm to girls? Just trying to understand your position

The point is that they stop puberty progressing.

Ironically, for gender dysphoria, they wait until puberty has started, to ensure that development is normal and they aren't missing or covering up any problems in sexual development health. Then block puberty and eventually give wrong sex hormones, ensuring that development is definitely messed up.

How can you be sure, when they might become men? Isn’t that a teeny bit transphobic?

It's under DEI. Trans includes this. Abortion and health services do not.

Wrong. The funding is being stopped regardless. It's being stopped because it's going to women.

The fact that PP provide trans stuff is a happy coincidence for the Trump administration.

And whose fault is that? PP for sterilising and chemically castrating children. If they didn't do that, the funding wouldn't be touched.

I 100% include girls in my feminism. Those girls will be women some day, they deserve the rights that past feminists won for them.

Puberty blockers are designed to stop puberty starting. Yes they use them throughout the puberty timeframe, but the original point of them is to use them prior to puberty to stop it beginning. Which is 10-12 (sometimes earlier than 10).

No. Many of the organisations whose funds are being stopped don't provide any sort of trans care or services to men. They exist solely for women. This is a funding freeze of $120million for women's services.

The fact that PP provide trans stuff is a happy coincidence for the Trump administration. Even if PP closed its doors tomorrow, the cuts to women's services will happen. Also, PP is massive, they may survive this. Smaller organisations won't.

It's a scary time for many women in the US atm and it hasn't even been 100 days of Trump.

So you prioritise adults over vulnerable innocent children. Thank you for admitting that.

UNICEF defines a child as anyone under the age of 18, in the Convention on the Rights of the Child.

The UK government defines a child as anyone who has not yet reached their 18th birthday, in line with the above.

It seems odd to dispute the meaning of the word, or to require others not to use it correctly.

Do the feminists who prioritise women over children not include female children in their feminism?