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kiterunning · 20/03/2025 10:40

Hopefully it will run throughout the day

kiterunning · 20/03/2025 10:39

On Sky News just now- good report and a tweet from Wes Streeting saying they would act on the review…

borntobequiet · 20/03/2025 10:35

Complained and copied complaint to my MP (who I know shares most of my concerns on this).

Justwrong68 · 20/03/2025 10:32

Surely the biggest scandal of all is that a criminal record can be erased with a GRC. Sounds too awful to be true; does anyone have an article written about this?

borntobequiet · 20/03/2025 10:15

No mention of it on the 10:00 news bulletin. I’m going to complain.

MassiveWordSalad · 20/03/2025 10:14

In fact I’m going to add, how fucking dare they omit a news item that is so clearly in the public interest and is being widely reported in other news outlets, including the front pages of some national newspapers? We are paying for this??? Even the fucking Guardian has covered it. What the actual fuck.

MassiveWordSalad · 20/03/2025 10:11

The BBC may have mentioned it on the radio, but I’m actually dumbfounded that there is not a word on the BBC news website or app. What the actual fuck?

fromorbit · 20/03/2025 10:00

The Sullivan Review alongside the Cass Review is going to put a nail through genderist nonsense.

Davros · 20/03/2025 09:24

It’s still not showing on the BBC News app

Realityisreal · 20/03/2025 09:08

I'm relieved to see this, it's an argument I've used with my 'Be Kind' ASD son for a year or so although I fear he's viewed this through the lens of 'Mum's a TERF'.
When I last raised this a few weeks ago he looked at me in annoyance and explained that incorrec data would never happen because this is collected by statisticians, they're professionals and know what they're doing!
This will peak those, like my son, who believed that that just being kind and saying the right thing was the beginning and end of the issue.

FinallyASunnyDay · 20/03/2025 08:50

Yes!!!!!

Biological sex erased from official data on health, crime and education
NoBinturongsHereMate · 20/03/2025 08:40

That graph is wonderful - couldn't be clearer.

borntobequiet · 20/03/2025 08:30

We’re so close to someone clarifying what this means for the DBS if people can disavow their previous name and actual sex. But it’s painfully slow.

TheOtherRaven · 20/03/2025 08:28

To the surprise of no-one Labour are refusing to commit to implementing the recommendations. Make life harder for people with disabilities? Have at it! Consider making people who claim to be trans possibly a little sad?

They're leaving the general public with only two places to go really:

  1. This is more of their two tiering where there are special people who matter in society and others (disabled people, the elderly, children with SEND (that bomb is due any minute) don't, and their sadness and feelings and dignity and respect isn't a Thing

  2. There's a whole hearted political and/or misogynistic commitment to these policies as helpful to the govt's agenda, which is being badly disguised under a rug of pomo burble.

Either way, it would appear that equality is one of those destroyed words that Labour is no longer into. Like 'women'.

StanfreyPock · 20/03/2025 08:23

Great positive discussion on R4, yessss!

JustSpeculation · 20/03/2025 08:21

WorriedMutha · 20/03/2025 08:11

I missed the 7.45 interview but heard it covered in the 8am headlines. As this subject seldom hits the mainstream, I'm hoping some R4 listeners are having a wtf moment this morning.
I had a serious wtf moment about the trans baby? Why the fuck didn't that raise a safeguarding red flag. Seriously?

Thank for that post @WorriedMutha . I went back and listened to the interview as I had missed it, too, and only caught the news item at 8. Alice Sullivan was very clear, and made strong, supported and explained points. It's so good to hear someone allowed to develop an argument without being subjected to continual aggressive interruptions.

Kucinghitam · 20/03/2025 08:20

I'm assuming TRSOH will be in "I see no ships" mode.

MarieDeGournay · 20/03/2025 08:19

Longlivethebling · 20/03/2025 08:14

Sky news explicitly clear on this, this morning. Not sure I have ever hear such simple and clear language on a news channel before.

Yeeesss! I just watched that too and made a reasonably energetic fistpump, given that it was only just after 8 in the morning😄

It was all there, wasn't it? Skewed crime figures as men commit most crime, 'gender pay gap' is really a 'sex pay gap', government response is blah blah blah and will pass on to relevant bodies..

And the reporter was so matter-of-fact and categorical about it, as if she had sprung fully-formed from the mind of FWR and thought it was all so obvious😁

Nice start to the day, along with bright sunshine this morning where I amSmile

Fenlandia · 20/03/2025 08:18

I caught the end of Alice's interview with (I think?) Justin Webb. She is so clear I just have to hope ordinary listeners could find no fault in her work. Of course statistics aren't a vehicle for self-expression, they capture data about categories in order to understand the world!

MrsOvertonsWindow · 20/03/2025 08:18

It was also discussed on GMB this morning with the even the tedious Ayesha Hazarika forced to agree that this shouldn't be happening.

Presumably the response from our trans captured government is crickets?

Longlivethebling · 20/03/2025 08:14

Sky news explicitly clear on this, this morning. Not sure I have ever hear such simple and clear language on a news channel before.

WorriedMutha · 20/03/2025 08:11

I missed the 7.45 interview but heard it covered in the 8am headlines. As this subject seldom hits the mainstream, I'm hoping some R4 listeners are having a wtf moment this morning.
I had a serious wtf moment about the trans baby? Why the fuck didn't that raise a safeguarding red flag. Seriously?

JustSpeculation · 20/03/2025 08:09

Yes, a very clear reporting on R4 today programme just now. No prevarication or "other views are available" pussyfooting. How nice.

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