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I regret voting Labour - they've let women down

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IwantToRetire · 18/03/2025 18:51

Polling shows that women are falling out of love with Labour - thanks to economic policies that will hit them the hardest and 'unforgivable' aid cuts

The latest polling from YouGov shows that women are falling out of love with Labour fast. In the first month of Starmer’s government, only a third (32 per cent) of women said they “disapproved of the Government’s record so far”; by mid-February that figure had more than doubled to 68 per cent.

Part-time and low-income jobs, which are disproportionately held by women, are predicted to be hardest hit by the rise in employers’ NI contributions. In the childcare and social care sectors the impact is expected to be particularly tough, with the effects of those changes being felt primarily by women too. Both sectors are major employers of female labour, and when costs rise or their services are shut down, it is women’s lives that are affected too.

High-net-worth women are also disappointed. The Saltus Wealth Index polls people holding more than £250,000 in investable assets. It revealed that women in this group were slightly more likely than men to have voted Labour in last summer’s election, and that Labour was still the most popular party for wealthy women – but of the 38 per cent who voted Labour in July, 68 per cent now regretted their decision.

From an article in the "i" https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/regret-voting-labour-women-3580582

Can also be read at https://archive.is/zXtxe

I regret voting Labour - they've let women down

Polling shows that women are falling out of love with Labour - thanks to economic policies that will hit them the hardest and 'unforgivable' aid cuts

https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/regret-voting-labour-women-3580582

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IwantToRetire · 14/05/2025 03:12

Thousands more victims of domestic abuse, sexual violence, ‘honour’-based abuse and stalking will have access to specialist support services thanks to a boost of nearly £20 million announced by the Safeguarding Minister.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/vital-support-for-victims-in-20-million-funding-boost

Just adding this for "balance". But what isn't clear is whether this just brings funding up to past levels as there have been many statements about loss of funding by Women's Aid projects.

And when you see that some of this is going to helplines, obviously essential, it isn't really about growth.

And this was only a few months ago:

More than half of women fleeing domestic abuse turned away from safe refuge due to chronic shortages
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/domestic-abuse-women-refuge-shortages-b2455087.html

Vital support for victims in £20 million funding boost

Thousands more victims to access life-saving support through a £19.9 million investment in specialist services.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/vital-support-for-victims-in-20-million-funding-boost

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Stirabout · 14/05/2025 01:58

JellySaurus · 18/03/2025 23:09

What were we being told, when we didn't want to vote Labour because of their anti-women stance? That Conservative may know what a woman is but that Conservative austerity was bad for women. Doesn't look like Labour austerity is any better for women.

Agree with this.
Those of us who said during the Election threads that we wouldn’t vote Labour because of their treatment of women were often vilified by other mumsnetters.
Now here we are

IwantToRetire · 14/05/2025 01:51

Surge in right-to-buy purchases could cancel out plans to build 18,000 homes

local authority statistics show that right-to-buy (RTB) applications increased dramatically last autumn, with numbers rising by as much as 100 times their usual rate as buyers rushed to beat the deadline and gain the maximum possible discount.

Councils warn that the number of homes that will now likely be sold could cancel out the Government’s pledge to build more than 18,000 more “social and affordable” homes.

This would undermine Housing Secretary Angela Rayner's commitment to “the biggest increase in social and affordable housing in a generation”,

One expert is describing the situation as “chaos” and comes as concerns grow over levels of homelessness and long waits for council houses.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/right-to-buy-surge-18500-council-homes-3686871

Of all the asset stripping that Tatcher implemented during her time as PM this is the one that has caused the most harm to the standard of living in the UK. And made family life virtually too expensive for many.

But Labour is at fault for not cancelling it once they got back into power, and now are only talking about changing the level of discount.

The privitisation of so many of the UK's assets whether to individuals or companies has been identified as one of the biggest factors in lower standards of living, making it more expensive to just survive.

And Labour seems wedded to it.

Right to buy surge set to wipe out 18,500 council homes

Mass sell-off - triggered by Reeves ending discounts could cancel out her promise of extra affordable homes, experts have claimed 

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/right-to-buy-surge-18500-council-homes-3686871

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IwantToRetire · 14/05/2025 01:44

Foreign aid cuts hit women and girls, minister admits

Lady Chapman insisted that the department would “integrate and mainstream” support for women and girls, something that organisations involved supported.

“If you work in development and you don’t have a passion for work on gender inequalities running through you, you’re in the wrong business.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/13/foreign-aid-cuts-to-hit-women-and-girls-jenny-chapman/
and at https://archive.is/2Q8N2

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YourAmplePlumPoster · 29/03/2025 20:38

No, I mean replacing the population with British born people. Old people die, just in case you didn't know.

user6209817643 · 29/03/2025 10:22

YourAmplePlumPoster · 27/03/2025 12:10

The OBR is a Quango of unelected officials set up by George Osborne in a cynical attempt to deflect the blame for cuts from him. Bin the OBR. Here's what I would do - a massive housebuilding programme of affordable housing which would provide a lot of employment and boost population growth which means the economy wouldn't have to rely so much on overseas labour to fill jobs. Couples with a roof over their heads wouldn't put off having children.

We are already a desperately overcrowded little island, and you think increasing the population further is the answer? Utter madness.

duc748 · 27/03/2025 19:13

The most popular message is 'let someone else pay', as always. 'Just' taxing the rich is not going to hack it. This what economists say, but politicians of the Left generally refuse to admit. I don't think a wealth tax is a bad idea, but we'll need a lot more than that.

stayathomegardener · 27/03/2025 18:59

Somethingthecatdraggedin7 · 19/03/2025 09:22

I think the biggest issue is the targeting of disabled people.
I am now politically homeless.

I feel the same and suspect many other do locally too.

Worrying with the by-election to replace Mike Amesbury in our constituency due in May.

I fear a Reform landslide.

IwantToRetire · 27/03/2025 17:58

Ideas from anyone else?

Mine has always been a massive social housing building programme.

ie not only would it increase the housing stock at affordable (ha, ha) rents, but the employment of builders, use of building materials, and need for other supples would create jobs etc..

It is in fact meant to be one of Labour's committments, but suspect they cant pull it off.

And then I saw these headlines:

Labour shortages threaten housebuilding targets despite government’s training boost,
https://www.rsmuk.com/news/labour-shortages-threaten-housebuilding-targets-despite-governments-training-boost

Labour will fall far short of its 1.5 million homes target, says construction industry body
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/mortgageshome/article-14508379/Labour-fall-far-short-1-5-million-homes-target-says-construction-industry-body.html

This is the problem for me.

I am not saying in the past everything was done well and on time(!) but more and more it seems nobody in the UK can get things done.

A lot of current housebuilding is really shoddy.

We dont seem to be able to work out actual costs effectively.

And we will probably have to allow a higher number of migrant workers with housing skills to get this to happen.

So at the very least I would go for higher taxes, and more effort to stop businesses who are offshoring their profits.

The organisations are calling for a two per cent wealth tax on those with net assets of over £10 million, which could raise an estimated £24 billion tax revenue each year - £460 million every week and would only apply to 0.04 per cent of the population - around 20,000 people.
https://www.oxfam.org.uk/media/press-releases/three-quarters-of-british-public-would-back-government-tax-increases-on-very-richest-versus-spending-cuts/

Oxfam GB | Three quarters of British public would back government tax increases on very richest versus spending cuts

https://www.oxfam.org.uk/media/press-releases/three-quarters-of-british-public-would-back-government-tax-increases-on-very-richest-versus-spending-cuts/

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anyolddinosaur · 27/03/2025 13:02

As I said before the election anyone expecting much from Labour was living in a fantasy world. Yes once parties are in government and they see what shit we are in their choices are more limited. Cant overly tax the really rich, they'll be off. The 10% of income taxpayers with the largest incomes already contribute over 60% of income tax receipts. The country cant afford the welfare state we currently have, you have to make cuts somewhere or tax everyone a bit more. We've bought too much Chinese crap and too little from within our own country.

Could maybe reintroduce higher rates of tax on "luxury" goods - anyone remember those taxes? Of course you need to be careful with that or the rich buy abroad. Changes to ISAs are probably coming, bringing pensions into inheritance tax is happening. Increase the age at which pensions are paid for all new entrants to any public sector pension scheme. You could introduce a tourist tax, you could introduce more council tax bands. Stamp duty could be further increased for foreign buyers of uk property. Higher capital gains on foreign owners of uk land and property maybe? Remove free prescriptions for those over 60 but under pension age, sweeten it by extending exemptions for certain conditions or reducing the cost of prepayment certificates.

I'm not a tax avoidance expert - there are probably loop holes to close still. Taxing larger farms was one of them, the threshold probably too low.

You could try to stimulate growth in different ways - increase gifting allowances for inheritance tax so people pass on more in their lifetime. Reduce Vat on any energy saving building work. Reform the honours system so those who donate more of their wealth to charity are honoured instead of sportspeople and others just doing their job and being well paid for it. Tax breaks for any car parks covered with solar canopies. Make men pay proper maintenance for their children, using the full range of powers.

Ideas from anyone else?

twistyizzy · 27/03/2025 12:53

YourAmplePlumPoster · 27/03/2025 12:10

The OBR is a Quango of unelected officials set up by George Osborne in a cynical attempt to deflect the blame for cuts from him. Bin the OBR. Here's what I would do - a massive housebuilding programme of affordable housing which would provide a lot of employment and boost population growth which means the economy wouldn't have to rely so much on overseas labour to fill jobs. Couples with a roof over their heads wouldn't put off having children.

No doubt by concreting all over the green belt and without the infrastructure to match! We dont have the skills to enable large scale house building and who is going to pay for "affordable" housing?

EasternStandard · 27/03/2025 12:49

duc748 · 27/03/2025 10:35

Approval ratings don't mean shit, though, do they? And by the nature of things, Chancellors are never popular.

She’s doing particularly badly.

Halving growth and wiping out headroom. Trying to cover that up hasn’t gone down well, for most anyway.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 27/03/2025 12:10

The OBR is a Quango of unelected officials set up by George Osborne in a cynical attempt to deflect the blame for cuts from him. Bin the OBR. Here's what I would do - a massive housebuilding programme of affordable housing which would provide a lot of employment and boost population growth which means the economy wouldn't have to rely so much on overseas labour to fill jobs. Couples with a roof over their heads wouldn't put off having children.

duc748 · 27/03/2025 10:35

Approval ratings don't mean shit, though, do they? And by the nature of things, Chancellors are never popular.

twistyizzy · 27/03/2025 07:22

Local MPs are bald faced lying on their Facebook pages + claiming OBR said growth for this year so that "working people" will be better off.
I think they are so scared of losing the whip as new MPs, that they will peddle any shit.

SionnachRuadh · 27/03/2025 07:10

Reeves was already on an 11% approval rating, which would make her less popular than Meghan Markle or Tommy Robinson. She may feel the only way is up. And Starmer can't sack her without damaging himself.

But the Chancellor will be judged on whether the voters feel they're becoming better off. That should be her sole focus. Instead Labour are getting her to pose in front of a tank, and sending talking heads onto TV to complain about the "Rachel from Accounts" meme being sexist.

I think we can smell desperation.

EasternStandard · 27/03/2025 06:48

Headlines are scathing today. I feel like Starmer and Reeves will try to ride it out no matter what. Regardless of damage.

IwantToRetire · 25/03/2025 20:23

Dozens of women’s organisations have warned Rachel Reeves to rethink her disability benefits cuts over fears it will remove a “vital lifeline” for victims of abuse.

Campaigners and researchers have told the Chancellor that disabled women are nearly twice as likely to experience economic abuse compared to non-disabled women, and are nearly four times more likely to have a partner or ex-partner stop them, or try to stop them, accessing benefits that they or their children are entitled to. They also warn that it will likely be women who will be forced to take on or increase unpaid care for their loved ones if their benefits are stripped back - often to the detriment of their own health and wellbeing.

article continues at https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/dwp-cuts-spark-huge-reaction-34927895

DWP cuts spark huge reaction from women’s groups - full letter to Rachel Reeves

Dozens of women’s organisations have warned Rachel Reeves to rethink her disability benefits cuts over fears it will remove a 'vital lifeline' for victims of abuse

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/dwp-cuts-spark-huge-reaction-34927895

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TempestTost · 25/03/2025 16:56

illinivich · 24/03/2025 23:21

The PFI sums up our political class.

It was introduced by Major as a work around spending constraints, and widely critised by labour. Once in power, Blairs government ran with it, George Osborne being particularly critical of the long term problems. Oddly enough, once chancellor, he seemed to have a change of heart.

Its as if we can't predict what we are voting for.

Sometimes, when I am querying my cynicism, I wonder if the problem is that in reality, once you are in government, the choices are narrow or even non-existent.

So even if you see the long term issue with these PFI arrangements, you need money for hospitals, and you don't have any, so what are the options? Not renew them? Or go with the PFIs and hope somehow it works out down the road?

In part it's would be that the public would not accept doing nothing and not re-elect you, but I think even for a very ethical MP, it would be stressful to say, we can't fulfill the obligations the public expects for healthcare and I know people will suffer and die because of it. So you kick the can down the road.

It's a feature in our political model that the opposition only has to criticize what the government does rather than offer alternatives. Which is for good reason, but sometimes it might be nice to get a good sense of what other options might be available to solve problems.

illinivich · 24/03/2025 23:21

anyolddinosaur · 24/03/2025 15:18

user6209817643 said "I’m old enough to remember previous labour governments and they’ve always made a hash of the economy " - not true.

PFI originated with the tories although labour were daft enough to continue it.

We'll have to wait and see how Starmer's government works out. They havent even had a year yet and dont have a magic wand to reverse years of decline.

The PFI sums up our political class.

It was introduced by Major as a work around spending constraints, and widely critised by labour. Once in power, Blairs government ran with it, George Osborne being particularly critical of the long term problems. Oddly enough, once chancellor, he seemed to have a change of heart.

Its as if we can't predict what we are voting for.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 24/03/2025 20:29

Haha 😄 maybe a bottle of whisky and a shotgun 😜 🤣

JanesLittleGirl · 24/03/2025 20:22

It's like being in the Headmistress 's study:

You have let the Party down.
You have let the Country down.
But most of all, you have let yourselves down.

TeiTetua · 24/03/2025 19:26

I don't see any point in rehashing the recent election. The voters didn't want the Tories any more, and that's that. It would be more useful to talk about what Labour will do under Starmer, and whether times have changed in a direction that makes victory more difficult for the trans cause. Or whether such a change could be made to happen, even with Labour in charge.

Good signs were the Cass report, the discrediting of the Tavistock Clinic, and various legal cases that make it clear that GC beliefs don't make anyone into a pariah, and others relating to women's insistence on single-sex spaces. Still pending in Fife and Darlington, of course.

Oh, and the fall of Nicola Sturgeon, who's widely seen to have backed the wrong side and paid a high price for it. Who'd want to do what she did?

YourAmplePlumPoster · 24/03/2025 18:45

PFI was a disaster. But not as much as Blair's wars. I never voted Labour again after that. TBH, I don't vote for any of them. They are all liars. Count Binface gets my vote especially as he promises free croissants for all.

twistyizzy · 24/03/2025 18:14

anyolddinosaur · 24/03/2025 15:18

user6209817643 said "I’m old enough to remember previous labour governments and they’ve always made a hash of the economy " - not true.

PFI originated with the tories although labour were daft enough to continue it.

We'll have to wait and see how Starmer's government works out. They havent even had a year yet and dont have a magic wand to reverse years of decline.

They turned a black hole into a super massive blackhole, crippled business, stifled growth. taxed education, cut WFA, taxed farmers, screwed over WASPI women, cut benefits for disabled....all in less than 12 months!
They lie + gaslight when found out.
That's all I need to know.

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