Sweden: most convicted rapists foreign born.

I don’t think of Swedish people as more “us” than other people. I said it was human nature to want to protect ourselves. That applies to all humans.

But this is where the conversation is inconsistent.

If these men are migrating from misogynistic societies, why is it unthinkable that they are responsible for a disproportionate number of sexual abuse? If they arent, why should we prioritise women migrants over men? Would a campaign to educate Afghan women in europe be unthinkable or not?

We will never know what is going on until we collect and analyse data, but then any attempt to do so is seen as racist or usless becauses its always going to be incomplete, or western courts and juries are systemically prejudice against certain races or immigrants.

We are in danger of creating a protected class of men and having more women abuse because the accusations of rasism is more hurtful to us.

Also, we are always comparing ourselves to different european countries because they are so similar to us. Both in terms of policy, attitudes and desired outcomes.

Unless OP, or others on the thread are Swedish, they aren't 'ourselves'. I think we just think of Swedish people as more 'us' than others.

I do agree with @selffellatingouroborosofhate that prioritising women from oppressive regimes that hate women is the right thing to do.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/08862605241311611

It is really worth reading this article from a peer reviewed academic journal both for the results and the discussion section. The analysis is adjusted for various factors including different kinds of behaviour such as criminal behaviour or alocohol or drug addiction and length of time in Sweden.

And say that it's true. That for example, Romanian men or Indian are much more likely to be rapists.

Under that circumstance, we should admit the women as immigrants and reject the men.

Which, TBH, is how I think we should deal with immigration from Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Somalia, or anywhere else where women have a lesser status than men in law. When the men realise that their international mobility is harmed by how they treat their women, and said women are leaving and being accepted as refugees in the same places that reject the men, the men will be motivated to overturn their Taliban, Wahabist, and FGM-supporting governments.

https://www.biometricupdate.com/202503/sweden-issues-rfi-for-new-abis-moldova-issues-biometric-hardware-tender

The agency [Swedish Migration Board] currently stores fingerprint data in a searchable format in the Swedish Police Authority’s ABIS and the Eurodac (European Dactyloscopy) information system.

So yes, it's a lot easier to identify a rapist if the fuzz already have his prints because he's an immigrant.

What a load of racist crap.

Stop lying. Sweden hasn't opened it's doors to millions of migrants at all. Sweden takes in around 100,000 a year and around 50,000 people emmigrate.

I suspect that the larger context is that people are experiencing and seeing similar things in other places across Europe that have had this mass immigration over the past 10 years. And I can tell you it's been similar in Canada.

And that's not distinct from what many women who have traveled themselves have experienced in places like India or Egypt. There is a good reason people advise female tourists in India to avoid busses.

So to some extent it's true that people are inclined to see statistics like that as likely reflecting reality, because it fits in with what they are experiencing.

It doesn't. That's a myth put out by the Daily Mail.

That seems like an odd conclusion to me? What are people in Sweden, or Europe, supposed to do about problems in India?

The city where my cousin lives has had problems recently with sectarian violence among recent immigrants from India. People can be concerned about importing that without thinking it's great that the people of India suffer that problem.

You probably don't live in the ghettos of Sweden.

Sweden never used to have ghettos but now it does.

I don't understand the poster who is so pro-mass immigration to such an extent that they accept rape and crime going up as a result.

It's blatantly obvious.

Sweden had a steady crime rate and sex crime rate for hundreds of years. They opened the floodgates to accept millions of immigrants with no background checks or rhyme or reason. The population has transformed in a very short time frame. (This is exactly what's happening in the UK).

Then coincidentally rape, sex assault, domestic violence and other crime has significantly increased in exactly the same timeframe.

Coincidence?????

I don't recognise the picture of Sweden being presented in this thread, and I've lived there for 20 years.

True, I did actually intend to include that and promptly forgot!

"The little I know about Sweden and the culture of misogyny, it's not a huge leap that for two identical cases, and only the accused differed, the nice respectable, Swedish native might well be favoured over the 'foreigner'"

is there any modern country today where that is not the case?

I have never heard anyone question the idea that most rapists are between 18 and 45. Ive never heard anyone claim that its ageist and we cannot possible say this because so much rape is not reported.

We use the information we have to keep ourselves safe, even when we know the data is incomplete.

You are being disingenuous by pretending that you 'rationally' dont use any rape data stats because the conviction rates are so low.

I'd be glad if I was deported to Sweden or Norway. Frequent visitor to both countries.

Well, be careful. As a foreigner, you're more likely to be convicted of rape!

I don't know much about their legal system, would it be a jury or a judge trial? Or does it vary? Inherent, subconscious bias can make all the difference to the outcome. What was that Channel 4 show with the two juries for the same case, with the different verdicts?

The little I know about Sweden and the culture of misogyny, it's not a huge leap that for two identical cases, and only the accused differed, the nice respectable, Swedish native might well be favoured over the 'foreigner'... This is where 'reasonable doubt' comes into play, particularly with rape cases. The Swedish man gets the benefit of the doubt, while the foreigner gets the harsher conclusion drawn 'he must have done it' without the benefit of the doubt.