M Newman V Met Police Employment Tribunal

Jfc

The Met, who have an institutional misogyny problem. Inviting in speakers to educate their staff on the new faux progressive misogyny. Just to make sure misogyny is covered from all angles, right?

On another thread, a woman mentions that police wouldn’t come to hospital to take a statement from her after she was injured by a hit and run driver. They said she had to come to the police station. She was in bed with broken limbs!

But yes, plenty of time to hassle people who have made rude comments on Twix, or attend propaganda sessions by pressure groups 🙄

It's not appropriate for any public service to put on these types of events.

The boo and hissing reaction caught my attention too, it makes me glad that we don't arm our police service, can you image what it would be like, if such braindead juveniles were allowed onto the streets with guns.

Here is the Archive version. You can often find one if you go to https://archive.ph/ & search for saved snapshot entering the URL for Telegraph, Times or other paywalled website.

https://archive.ph/KGZJI

Interesting. Maybe media attention will make them behave differently in court.

This is so very bizarre it was more like a trans rights rally rather than an informative or educational seminar.

I cannot get my head around why the senior police would deem it something that should be provided in works time.

Again the defence seems to be thus far that the witness and anyone associated with GC views is a right wing fascist.

Also to add i do not think that a meeting of gender critical police booing and hissing about, i dunno erm Butler or some other such twat would be an appropriate works time activity either.

its just plain strange.

Thank you!

If all the hours were calculated that the police have spent in the last 5? 8? years on listening to trans extremist pressure groups, dodgy policy writing plus all the other rainbow initiatives, the public would be horrified. Not just at the financial cost but the vast amount of officer time spent on a luxury belief at the expense of an increasingly desperate public who expect the police to be protecting the them and catching criminals.

I'm in a nice part of inner London, but this sounds so familiar. They are basically interested in doing as little as possible, and will walk past criminality and ignore it, rather than intervene. Other than the van of officers that used to turn up at the park in lockdown to check no toddlers were going on the baby swings.

The only police action we see is a photo once a month on Next Door of the two local PCSOs in a coffee shop for a chat with local residents in the name of 'community engagement'. But get burgled, or your phone snatched out of your hand by some hooded Herbert on an E-bike, and there's zero response.

I guess now we know why - they're all sitting in training courses hissing at Posie Parker. Thank God we can all sleep easy in our beds now. 🙄

I live in what is considered to be a nice part of outer London. We are surrounded by money laundering "businesses", cars are stolen off driveways every night of the week, burglary is rife as is shoplifting and knife crime. None of this is of any interest to the police. In fact I don't think I have seen an actual police officer or even a community support officer since lockdown, when there were a couple patrolling local parks to make sure nobody sat on a bench with a takeaway coffee.
How have they got time and money to spend on this propaganda ?

So 200 hours of police time. Surely enough time and expertise there to actually solve at least one burglary that has now gone unsolved? So letting actual criminals get away with it so they could go to this political propaganda event instead

What a waste of public money. All to be ranted at with anti-woman hate. How is the hissing at the mention of kjk not police harassment? Totally inappropriate in a work setting.

Yep, as somebody who lives in London and has recently been in need of police assistance, only to find they developed incredibly slopey shoulders and did their utmost to wriggle out of doing anything, I am incandescent that they give officers time over to this. Incandescent.

On top of their de facto decision that women and girls are second class citizens, whose safety, dignity and rights should be subordinate to men, not to mention their policing of the Sarah Everard vigil and I am bealing here.

I can only hope this tribunal goes the right way.

)Edited to correct a nonsensical autocorrect I didn’t spot before posting)

Is she saying the Met discriminated against her as a person with gender critical beliefs by hosting this course? I’m not being goady I’m just unclear about the exact details.

As a side note it is amazing that organisations pay to be told absolute rubbish from an array of interesting people.

There are significant safeguarding issues with presenting young children with age inappropriate sexual information. My guess is it will have been an incoherent list presented to a passive audience who hopefully wouldn't have been concentrating. But it speaks to there being too many trusted adults abandoning their safeguarding responsibilities because "LGBTQ etc etc so anything goes " reasons

For decades and decades parent groups and others resisted having sex ed in schools because they didn't want children to be sexualised. But now children are being force fed highly inappropriate, warped, sex fantasies as a normal part of their education. You couldn't make it up.

I've written to the Court asking for permission to observe online. Will share when I get a response

Taken from the witness statement re one of the trans speakers at the event when talking about his trans child.

'19. SC then spoke of SC’s 11yr old child (D), described as a “boyish boy” that does normal boy
stuff like jumping and going on swings. He is also an activist and delivered an LGBT assembly
at primary school where he spoke about gender identity and gender expression, bi-sexuality,
pan-sexuality and demi-sexuality. The child received a round of applause'

What the hell is an 11 year old doing giving talks on bi, demi and pansexuality?
Is that normal now? I don't have children but at primary school, I don't think I was even thinking about sex, nevermind in a position to lecture on it

Especially as it was in work time. A 4 hour event attended online by 50 Met staff (who can't find the time to attend burglaries, shoplifters etc) but suddenly have 4 hours free to attend a trans propaganda event where speakers are openly critical of women.
And they wonder why the public has such a dim view of them and their priorities.

The content of this course seems completely unacceptable, it's a hate filled unhinged rant masquerading as training. Do the people who organise these 'training' sessions even bother to familiarise themselves with what their signing off on. 🤬

This sounds bizarre. I guess we’ll have to see how it unfolds.

Is this one people are allowed to watch online?

For people trying to catch up with this case, Tribunal Tweets missed the start of the proceedings so Maya F stepped in.

It is great that Tribunal panels are turning down anonymity requests. Presumably these witnesses will be called on Thursday and Friday.