M Newman V Met Police Employment Tribunal

So she accepts she can use her intelligence to differentiate between the danger posed by rabbits v cows, but not men v women

This witness is even more depressing than the witnesses in other trials

I'd take my chances with the rabbits 🤣🤣🤣

trampled by a rabbit! I literally snorted.

That weasel of a superintendent is talking out of her arse. Earlier on agreed that a lot of the time they are making on the spot dynamic risk assessments.

Next thing you know she can't make an assumption that a Womens Institute protest wouldn't potentially turn into a violent disorder, and would have to look at intelligence!! So much for dynamic then! Maybe it was the banners NC mentioned....

Agrees that if all the passengers on a nightbus were female she'd be more relaxed, but her assessment of female is "manner and demeanor" So a bus full of Emily Howards are all female and therefore absolutely fine then 🥴

Genderwoo genuinely makes people lose their minds.

Gosh this silly BBF refusing to acknowledge that she would be more worried about men than women. NC being forced into taking her through the relative risks of being trampled by cows and by rabbits.

I suspect that you need to email the Croydon Employment Tribunals to ask for access to listen remotely.

This is going to be painful:
NC - when looking at stats men are more likely to commit crime?
BBF - yes, depends on type though
NC - yes, one of few crimes where women go ahead of men is non-payment tv license?
BBF - I don't know that
NC - men are more likely to be involved in violent crime? over 90%
BBF - don't know recent stats
NC - not surprising though?
BBF - no NC - do you agree over 90% of sexual violence?
BBF - I would have to look at figures
NC - are you saying that you don't accept it to the tribunal?
BBF - no I am I just don't know the numbers

TT has just started live feed. Is it possible to join the proceedings live, does anyone know?

Thanks @ifIwerenotanandroid that's the substack, it works fine, I should have thought of going there - not sure what the Googledocs is

@Igmum The link at 11/03/2025 21:22 works for me. For speed, do 'See all'.

Justme, its telling me that I don't have access and need to request it (on two devices now) could you post something that isn't on a GoogleDrive?

I think this is the clip referenced in the Tribunal when EE is interviewing a panel of lesbians - The Met witness said they didn't think that having EE as chair of the panel posed any conflict of interest or problem. See for yourself:
https://x.com/Jonnywsbell/status/1900900720812990874

James Esses has pointed out that the infamous Eva Echo - so beloved by the Met police - is the UK Delegate for the United Nations Commission on the Status of Women. He also sits on the Crown Prosecution Service’s ‘hate crime panel’.

As ever, mediocre men with zero knowledge of a subject float to the top, taking places, funding and prestige from women who should be where they are.

https://x.com/JamesEsses/status/1900291182405566491

Did you see the Appendix at the back outlining how much police forces paid to Stonewall over the years. Just weird that so much money has been funnelled towards 1-2 protected characteristics

Horrible. I’m surprised he wasn’t referred to counter terrorism for surveillance

How telling that sacking this misogynistic racist pick was later seen as an emontional overreaction due to the fact that another officer recently kidnapped, raped and murdered a woman. Also shows why no action has been taken against rapist/ murderer officer for earlier reported flashing offenses.

I have to wonder if the “emotional” crack is a reference to the number of women on it?

Is it possible the director was biased by more or less unconscious misogyny?

Sort of 'if you think he's bad, you should see the rest of 'em'?

Maybe given the levels of extreme abuse of women, domestic violence, rape and murder being committed by men working for the Met this seemed relativley minor? Just searching for reasons why they think this vile man should be working with the vulnerable public. 🙄

It says so much about the water they swim in that they dismissed all that as 'feeling emotional'. I felt quite emotional after reading it 😡

Horrified. Dear God, what a shitshow the Met is.

So that's:

• 2 instances of horrendous misogyny
• 1 nasty bit of racism, with the added bonus of interrupting a colleague dealing with a member of the public just so he could make the racist remark
• and following a female colleague home

And the Met thought the panel had only dismissed him because they were feeling emotional.

This speaks volumes about the Met

https://archive.ph/N45B7

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/03/15/met-police-sued-999-call-handler-reinstated-issy-vine/

I'm speechless.

And this pp116

"Police performance on a bread-and-butter crime such as burglary is falling, as well as crime in general, while at the same time, the police are actively soliciting reports of things that are not crimes. That is a matter of shame, and it stems
from the imposition of the experts in the College of Policing"

Presumably that set of top notch Babcock training slides the tribunal heard about? The Civitas report suggests abolishing the training academy. In general it is blistering...

And finishes with this suggestion which I think maybe is the key to a lot of things:

"A government review of the Equality Act and the extent to which it fuels political activism within private and public institutions that ought to be politically neutral."

Yep that one stood out 😮