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Northern Ireland's health trusts say transgender staff must be allowed to use toilets of new gender - paving way for repeat of Scottish 'Beth Upton' legal case

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IwantToRetire · 11/03/2025 01:48

All five of the trusts – Belfast, Northern, Southern, Western, and South Eastern – said they have policies for their staff, but not for patients.

The documents all state, each in identical wording, under the heading ‘Single sex toilet facilities’, that “while every effort should be made to deal with concerns amongst staff it should be made clear that once (insert name) begins the process of changing gender identity they will use the appropriate facilities of their new gender”.

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/health/northern-irelands-health-trusts-say-transgender-staff-must-be-allowed-to-use-toilets-of-new-gender-paving-way-for-repeat-of-scottish-beth-upton-legal-case-5024617

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ClioMuse · 11/03/2025 07:20

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It's usually less clean if blokes are using it.

I'm live and let live but I'm not taking part in some blokes fetish as he tries to ' be a woman'

The reason biological women with short hair etc are being challenged is because of men intruding into women's spaces. Men should stay out.

gavinandstaceychristmasspecial · 11/03/2025 07:09

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Childrenofthestones · 11/03/2025 06:55

Transwomen are a tiny number.
Rape survivors advocacy groups say 1 in 6 women and girls will suffer a rape or serious sexual assault in their life times.
That's millions of various ages, carry that trauma with them.
The vast majority of transwomen still have a working penis. Why can't these decision makers appreciate the affect putting somebody with a penis in the next stall to a rape survivor who's sitting with her knickers round her ankles has on them? A place that has always been safe.
The tiny number of transwomen need to be accommodated, but it shouldn't be at the expense of the vastly larger numbers of rape survivors.

UtopiaPlanitia · 11/03/2025 03:30

As someone living in NI, I'm not happy to hear this. I can't imagine that managers and staff in the various Trusts haven't been keeping an eye on the Peggie v Fife NHS case, so the decision to state these maximalist staff policies feels political rather than arising from ignorance of the employment legislation.

And, as a patient, I am extremely unhappy that no policies for patient safety/dignity have been put in place. Although, with these policies for staff they've implemented, I'm not hopeful that the Trusts would put patients' needs front and centre in any policies they created.

NI has cultural differences to GB, especially when it comes to many social issues, and people here are generally socially conservative. So the creation of these policies in the public sector does not go down well with many members of the communities that the Trusts are supposed to serve. It's imposed upon us, and legislators, civil servants, and bureaucrats of all sorts, don't seem to care that the public is not in alignment with the push towards full adherence to Genderist ideology.