Girls Spot Gym under attack for being women only

A few screenshots from that Reddit thread. Does anyone know anything about the tribunal referenced?

As pp said. Typical upside down TRA interpretation of course. AIW won her case because ACE didn't follow process. At no point did they say her comments were ok. There is a thread here. Is this fool even aware that they were also found to have discriminated against Denise Fahmy for her GC beliefs?

I agree.

Dr Gad Saad has spoken publicly about what he termed 'suicidal empathy' and I think that, in this situation, that is what these women who are attacking Natalee are displaying.

https://www.northwood.edu/news/parasitic-ideas-and-suicidal-empathy-are-killing-the-west/

She uses a great phrase about all the libfem types abusing Natalee - "suicidal compassion and empathy".

A supportive opinion from America:

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Video here as well https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLezistance/comments/1j8zod7/fitness_influencer_nataleebfitness_refuses_to_let

https://www.instagram.com/nataleebarnett_/reel/DHBZpTvtaXU

I feel so bad for her, she's just trying to make a safe space for herself and other women, and now she feels she has to make video after video explaining this while trans activist idiots and abusers rage at her. It's heartbreaking.

Thanks to both of you for the explanations and the links.

Deleted because cross posted.
https://www.gov.uk/employment-tribunal-decisions/mrs-a-islam-wright-v-arts-council-england-and-c-ashcroft-2408555-slash-2022

In any case, the case is irrelevant because excluding males who claim to be women from a women-only gym is lawful.

This is a summary of the tribunal: www.artsprofessional.co.uk/news/breaking-news-ace-loses-second-gender-beliefs-tribunal-case

You will be Shocked that it doesn't say what they say it says.

Basically, woman compared gender critical beliefs to racism. When shit hit fan she recanted. Her employer continued to disciplinary at which point she resigned. Tribunal said the employer didn't follow their disciplinary procedures and also they believed that she was proper sorry guv honest so employer should have accepted that and drawn a line.

A few screenshots from that Reddit thread. Does anyone know anything about the tribunal referenced?

I have not said that harassment ay gyms does not take place, we all know that it does.
I would be happy with completely separate male and female gyms, even if they were separate in the same building,.
What I am talking about are those that have filmed in gyms and people have been able to disprove that harassment has not happened at all..

It’s such a shame that she has had so much abuse for trying to do something that men did for centuries!

If she makes it a membership only club and interviews prospective members ( like they do for golf clubs etc ) then she can allow only those people who will fit in with the ethos of her private club. The membership fee could be relatively small once only payment and then pay as you go

Surely if it HASN'T taken place it can't be filmed.
More importantly enormous amounts of harassment HAVE taken place and I for one have been physically assaulted for daring to stand up for a girl who was pushed off a machine by her brother.

The abuse Natalee has been receiving has been horrifying. I hope she's OK.

It's the same on Twitter and it's really pissing me off. Those of us with PCOS (aside from the utter melts who claim that their PCOS makes them intersex which is just...) are really fucked off at our female endocrine disorder being used as a shitty gotcha.

We're not men. Our hirsutism doesn't make us men or make us somehow 'manly'. Our higher testosterone levels are nowhere near even the lowest level for men. We're women with a female disorder.

My dd is raging about this. She gets all her 'news' online and she's definitely of the opinion it was crowdfunded and won't hear of the counter-arguments. It's so tedious

I’ve just seen this on TikTok.
I hope she does well, and agree that the abuse she’s getting proves how much female only spaces are needed.

I just saw a vile comment from a transman saying she’s going to get surgery, all the hormones, bulk up and go to the gym to make the women feel uncomfortable, I mean, they can go to literally any other gym for that. What a twat! She’s already trying to opt out of her sex, why go the extra mile to ruin it for others? Fucking spiteful lot they are!

Interesting that the people on reddit (and IG) seem to think its crowd funded. On IreneBritUSA's most recent post, she shows a video of Natalee where she states she put the money up to open it.

Between Biology and transition, which comes first in terms of protected characteristics?

Reddit

www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/s/mbKJWulNDw

Something about the story feels a little odd to me, maybe a slight whiff of grift about it, the wannabe gym owner seems a bit like an 'influencer' type, and very young to be opening up a gym in competition with the established 'big dogs' who are active in this space.

Though it goes without saying that I say more power to Ms Bennett in her endeavours, the proposed clientele limitations seem more than reasonable to me.

There is a female only gym near me. It doesn't say anything about whether it is for biological women only, but it is in an area of the city that has a high Muslim population, so I would imagine it's a given that that's how it operates and any man trying to self ID into it would get short shrift.

Who indeed. This lobby doesn't seem to know the meaning of half the theoretical terms it's fond of regurgitating (not that intersectionality is a methodology of any kind, just a social observation). Ask them who Crenshaw was and what was the point behind her article, then watch them stand there with their gears spinning.

If TRAs don't grasp that gender constructivism is the very brainchild of the 'queer' theorists whose work they constantly spout and on which they claim to be informed, there's no helping them. 'Gender' is a crock of socially-sanctioned stereotypes. Don't blame us - just ask Foucault 😆

Here's just another case of TRAs' misappropriation of language, theoretical terms, large threads of academia, and spaces and groups in which they have no business, which in reality have sod all to do with them.

The only solution in society is for trans to create their own trans space and stop demanding to mix. Unfortunately for them you can't expect and force everyone to agree to accommodate something they don't want or believe in. Women deserve to have their own space without cosplay and I really hope she sticks to her guns on this one.

I think this is in Wandsworth....have joined the wait list to show support

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