Does anyone else resent the gender/ TERF wars?

HOW FUCKING DARE I at least five times over?

You need to get a grip. Thankfully I don't need your permission to dare to have an opinion.

She's gripping just fine.

Tell me what's so wrong about noticing that LARPers are LARPers.

Btw, I do appreciate your pointing out that that is what it is.

@Glitterknickerbockers I think you have an absolute cheek making out that they are the victims are not allowed to "live in peace".
They are the ones who won't let women and girls live in peace. They have invaded our safe spaces, invaded our sports and caused at least one girl to be paralysed by the strength of their ball strike. They have re-arranged society's definitions to the extent women and girls are now called 'bleeders', 'menstruators' and 'cervix havers'. They have had males in rape crisis centres, and any vulnerable traumatised girl that complains is themselves banned from the centre. They have made men's crimes of rape listed as womens crimes which has seen the crime of rape gone up to 33% a womans crime. They have managed to completely dismantle all safeguards women and girls and have and completely and utterly re-ordered society, to the extent that we can't even fucking have International Womens Day without a male being headlined to speak and lead a parade. And males shown in every IWD ad.

They have a level of power, privilege, protection and prestige that no other minority group EVER in history has had. Gay men never had anywhere near this power. Never before has any 'marginalised' minority group gained such MASSIVE POWER and INFLUENCE SO QUICKLY.

How FUCKING DARE you make out that transwomen are 'victims' and can't live in peace? Seriously, the brass neck of you! How fucking dare you even have the sheer gall! All WOMEN AND GIRLS want, is to live in fucking peace with fully intact males in our changerooms, sports, rape shelters etc.

We were all fine with trans people for decades until they started infiltrating womens spaces. Then, it was game on. They bullied, abused, hounded, harassed and attacked and threatened until they completely broke down society's social contract that protected women and girls.

FEMALES JUST WANT TO LIVE IN PEACE! We just want to have our sex-based rights back, to feel secure in society. So how absolute fucking dare you make out that these males are 'victims' when they have all the power and privilege and women and girls don't even have any safeguards anymore. How dare you have the gall to come here and tell us these invaders, colonisers and bullies are the 'victims' of us. How dare you!! These males are not victims, they are the recipients of Male Privilege that has re-ordered society completely to cater them them, and stripped females of every human right and safeguard we fought hard for.

These males are not and never were the victims. It is FEMALES that want only to live in peace, and have our rights back.

Let's not mince words, shall we? What you thought was a friend is in reality an enemy. You don't need people like that in your life.
Well done for sticking to your guns. Fuck her!

@Glitterknickerbockers I think you have an absolute cheek making out that they are the victims are not allowed to "live in peace".
They are the ones who won't let women and girls live in peace. They have invaded our safe spaces, invaded our sports and caused at least one girl to be paralysed by the strength of their ball strike. They have re-arranged society's definitions to the extent women and girls are now called 'bleeders', 'menstruators' and 'cervix havers'. They have had males in rape crisis centres, and any vulnerable traumatised girl that complains is themselves banned from the centre. They have made men's crimes of rape listed as womens crimes which has seen the crime of rape gone up to 33% a womans crime. They have managed to completely dismantle all safeguards women and girls and have and completely and utterly re-ordered society, to the extent that we can't even fucking have International Womens Day without a male being headlined to speak and lead a parade. And males shown in every IWD ad.

They have a level of power, privilege, protection and prestige that no other minority group EVER in history has had. Gay men never had anywhere near this power. Never before has any 'marginalised' minority group gained such MASSIVE POWER and INFLUENCE SO QUICKLY.

How FUCKING DARE you make out that transwomen are 'victims' and can't live in peace? Seriously, the brass neck of you! How fucking dare you even have the sheer gall! All WOMEN AND GIRLS want, is to live in fucking peace with fully intact males in our changerooms, sports, rape shelters etc.

We were all fine with trans people for decades until they started infiltrating womens spaces. Then, it was game on. They bullied, abused, hounded, harassed and attacked and threatened until they completely broke down society's social contract that protected women and girls.

FEMALES JUST WANT TO LIVE IN PEACE! We just want to have our sex-based rights back, to feel secure in society. So how absolute fucking dare you make out that these males are 'victims' when they have all the power and privilege and women and girls don't even have any safeguards anymore. How dare you have the gall to come here and tell us these invaders, colonisers and bullies are the 'victims' of us. How dare you!! These males are not victims, they are the recipients of Male Privilege that has re-ordered society completely to cater them them, and stripped females of every human right and safeguard we fought hard for.

These males are not and never were the victims. It is FEMALES that want only to live in peace, and have our rights back.

I resent that people are still banging on about the TERF ears and won't just let trans people live in peace.

I have two tran friends, both lovely people who want nothing more than to live their lives in peace but face abuse on an almost daily basis and the fact that people can't just leave them alone and let them live their lives in a way that makes them happy when they aren't harming anyone pisses me off. I resent the fact that most people here would relish in calling them men lapping as women, men in dresses, male bad actors and all sorts of other insults because it is cruel.

I resent that people are still banging on about the TERF ears and won't just let trans people live in peace.

I have two tran friends, both lovely people who want nothing more than to live their lives in peace but face abuse on an almost daily basis and the fact that people can't just leave them alone and let them live their lives in a way that makes them happy when they aren't harming anyone pisses me off. I resent the fact that most people here would relish in calling them men lapping as women, men in dresses, male bad actors and all sorts of other insults because it is cruel.

I resent that people are still banging on about the TERF ears and won't just let trans people live in peace.

I have two tran friends, both lovely people who want nothing more than to live their lives in peace but face abuse on an almost daily basis and the fact that people can't just leave them alone and let them live their lives in a way that makes them happy when they aren't harming anyone pisses me off. I resent the fact that most people here would relish in calling them men lapping as women, men in dresses, male bad actors and all sorts of other insults because it is cruel.

I resent that people are still banging on about the TERF ears and won't just let trans people live in peace.

I have two tran friends, both lovely people who want nothing more than to live their lives in peace but face abuse on an almost daily basis and the fact that people can't just leave them alone and let them live their lives in a way that makes them happy when they aren't harming anyone pisses me off. I resent the fact that most people here would relish in calling them men lapping as women, men in dresses, male bad actors and all sorts of other insults because it is cruel.

I resent that people are still banging on about the TERF ears and won't just let trans people live in peace.

I have two tran friends, both lovely people who want nothing more than to live their lives in peace but face abuse on an almost daily basis and the fact that people can't just leave them alone and let them live their lives in a way that makes them happy when they aren't harming anyone pisses me off. I resent the fact that most people here would relish in calling them men lapping as women, men in dresses, male bad actors and all sorts of other insults because it is cruel.

Indeed. Then Calvin was a great Reformer. But he too had heretics burnt at the stake. Perhaps the TRA ideology will end like the French Reign of Terror , devouring its own children?

Thomas More was one of them. He it was betrayed Tyndale, the translator of the Bible into English. Then More fell foul of the same ideology. Which is just like the situation of TRAs - they only need one slip and they too will be cancelled/denounced.

I got it from the Crucible and a TV film based on that witch trial : 3 Sovereigns For Sarah.
And Thomas More's defence still doesn't work , alas.

I got that from Wolf Hall too!

I resent that the debate is so divisive and doesn't seem interested in proposing solutions. It all feels really nasty. What's the way forward? Trans people exist, how can we respect their right to be in society without diminishing women's hard won rights?
I think it's the right wing stirring it up to create culture wars because they have lost all the other arguments tbh.
If we just say we need single toilet/changing room cubicles and that people born male can't compete in women's sports at a competitive level that's all too simple isn't it. People would rather prolong vicious arguments instead 🤷

I'm not going to cut men and women who have transitioned and the people who support them out of my life, why the hell would I do that? I'm from quite a posh and academic family so it's absolutely rife among my richer cousins and friends. I also have no interest in seeing people crawling anywhere.