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Supreme Court For Women Scotland

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Cismyfatarse · 07/03/2025 06:32

The Supreme Court is about to tell us whether we are women

www.thetimes.com/article/6a59421a-6945-4121-9c02-44c5059e0602?shareToken=7e6c99a84676224be2c793794ffb6028

It looks like this is imminent. Article by Akua Reindorf. Haven't read it yet but here for anyone that wants to read it.

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selffellatingouroborosofhate · 13/03/2025 22:52

Llamasarellovely · 13/03/2025 21:39

Metaphorically 😀 I had a shit case and he did not hesitate to let me know he thought so too.

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Ah, you are a barrister and have interacted with him as part of your work.

I'm autistic, I took that literally, and wad horrified that he might be your ex-H or something.

Llamasarellovely · 13/03/2025 21:39

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 13/03/2025 21:23

Wait, what? Did you just say that a Supreme Court judge has kicked you, or is this a joke I've misunderstood?

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Metaphorically 😀 I had a shit case and he did not hesitate to let me know he thought so too.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 13/03/2025 21:23

Llamasarellovely · 13/03/2025 20:19

Sweet Lord that is an image I wish I'd had last time he was kicking me around 🤣

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Wait, what? Did you just say that a Supreme Court judge has kicked you, or is this a joke I've misunderstood?

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 13/03/2025 21:21

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2025 19:25

The day that the Govt can interfere with the judicial process is the day that democracy and the rule of law die.

<cough> Scotland <cough>

We already knew that Scotland is a shitshow.

MarjorieDanvers · 13/03/2025 20:33

Well let’s hope Lord Reed doesn’t shave his legs and says he’s now a she. …..

Llamasarellovely · 13/03/2025 20:19

MarieDeGournay · 13/03/2025 18:35

Here he comes, he's all dressed in black
PR shoes and a big straw hat
He's never early, he's always late
First thing you learn is that you always gotta wait
I'm waiting for my man

I don't think Lord Reed will turn up in trainers and a big straw hat, but you never know😄

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Sweet Lord that is an image I wish I'd had last time he was kicking me around 🤣

Snowypeaks · 13/03/2025 19:53

Just wondered, was it definitely supposed to be "imminent"? Or was that a hope?

anyolddinosaur · 13/03/2025 19:44

Who decides how judges are allocated to cases these days?

Democracy doesnt really exist and the law largely exists to protect property rights.

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2025 19:25

The day that the Govt can interfere with the judicial process is the day that democracy and the rule of law die.

<cough> Scotland <cough>

IwantToRetire · 13/03/2025 18:59

MarjorieDanvers · 13/03/2025 18:13

Three of the FWS SC judges were involved in the case listed for next week - and that was heard in July 2024 - so quite some time before the FWS case.

Well compared to other court cases for the legal profession that would be quick!

MarieDeGournay · 13/03/2025 18:35

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2025 18:29

I read Lou Reed and was taken aback. Walk on the wild side, indeed.

Here he comes, he's all dressed in black
PR shoes and a big straw hat
He's never early, he's always late
First thing you learn is that you always gotta wait
I'm waiting for my man

I don't think Lord Reed will turn up in trainers and a big straw hat, but you never know😄

fanOfBen · 13/03/2025 18:30

I assumed they just always said that!

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 13/03/2025 18:30

IwantToRetire · 13/03/2025 17:51

How many Judges sat to hear this court case.

As it is about a UK wide law it will have been more than one.

Maybe they cant agree.

Or the Labour Government is lobbying and asking not to imply change is needed to the wording of the EA as they have a pretty full agenda!

A joke of course, would never imply that the Government might so something underhand.

Or the Labour Government is lobbying and asking not to imply change is needed to the wording of the EA as they have a pretty full agenda!

A joke of course, would never imply that the Government might so something underhand.

The day that the Govt can interfere with the judicial process is the day that democracy and the rule of law die.

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2025 18:29

I read Lou Reed and was taken aback. Walk on the wild side, indeed.

MarjorieDanvers · 13/03/2025 18:20

Lord Reed did suggest they’d be as quick as possible (so possibly up to eight months or so in legalese!)

fanOfBen · 13/03/2025 18:17

Yeah, maybe it's just not as imminent as all that! (Drums fingers.)

MarjorieDanvers · 13/03/2025 18:13

Three of the FWS SC judges were involved in the case listed for next week - and that was heard in July 2024 - so quite some time before the FWS case.

fanOfBen · 13/03/2025 18:11

I had the impression, from people who seemed to understand how these things work, that the fact that the judgement was described as imminent earlier suggested that the draft was out; if there was disagreement among the judges, I would expect that to happen earlier and to have been resolved by the time anyone else saw a draft. Of course this was tealeaf reading and may have been wrong. It does seem conceivable that a government might be able to ask for a few weeks' delay in the release of a Supreme Court judgement, so that they can get their response ready; I don't know about that. Well, fingers crossed that we like it when it comes.

MarjorieDanvers · 13/03/2025 18:08

The two other judges were Lord Hodge and Lord Lloyd-Jones

MarjorieDanvers · 13/03/2025 18:03
  • Lord Reed!
MarjorieDanvers · 13/03/2025 18:02

@IwantToRetire five judges in total (including the head of the Supreme Court, Lord Reid. The others included Lady Rose and Lady Simler - the only current female Supreme Court judges).

IwantToRetire · 13/03/2025 17:51

How many Judges sat to hear this court case.

As it is about a UK wide law it will have been more than one.

Maybe they cant agree.

Or the Labour Government is lobbying and asking not to imply change is needed to the wording of the EA as they have a pretty full agenda!

A joke of course, would never imply that the Government might so something underhand.

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2025 11:44

fanOfBen · 13/03/2025 11:39

The latest announcement of upcoming judgements at the Supreme Court is out at https://www.supremecourt.uk/news/future-judgment and the FWS judgement is not one of them. Isn't this getting a bit odd given that it was said to be imminent? I wonder if something serious is going on behind the scenes in response to the parties being given a chance to quickly object to things in the draft?

Yes, i was expecting to see it announced today.

fanOfBen · 13/03/2025 11:39

The latest announcement of upcoming judgements at the Supreme Court is out at https://www.supremecourt.uk/news/future-judgment and the FWS judgement is not one of them. Isn't this getting a bit odd given that it was said to be imminent? I wonder if something serious is going on behind the scenes in response to the parties being given a chance to quickly object to things in the draft?

Future judgments - UK Supreme Court

Future judgments

https://www.supremecourt.uk/news/future-judgment

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 09/03/2025 12:29

AshKeys · 09/03/2025 11:41

I think that was the point Tallisker was making. Why should someone get time off for cosmetic surgery because they identify as trans, when the rest of the population don’t even get paid time for life-saving surgery cancer treatment?

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Yes, I think we're all in agreement here.

I feel it's extra painful to refuse detranstioners though because so many have been so totally lied to and let down by the very people we trust to know better. Teachers, doctors, psychologists, politicians, journalists. It's hard not to feel that society owwes them some recompense. But there have always been social fads which have damaged young peopl and medical fads/negligence which have done harm, and the Equality Act isn't the right place to deal with them.