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NHS Fife suspended student midwife over religious belief

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SidewaysOtter · 01/03/2025 15:20

Jesus, who the hell is running this binfire of an NHS trust?

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/scotland/article/student-midwife-suspended-from-training-over-pro-life-beliefs-dc6sgbqnb

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NecessaryScene · 01/03/2025 16:56

"Spencer was specifically investigated for bringing the profession or the university into disrepute, conducting herself in a manner “detrimental to the safety, dignity, and wellbeing and personal and/or professional reputation of others”, misusing social media and conducting herself in a manner falling below the expectations of the student’s relevant professional code."

NHS Fife and Upton are guilty of 3 out of 4, even before I check their social media.

BonfireLady · 01/03/2025 16:27

"She also made reference to the fact that she would always personally object to participating in “killing” an unborn child."

As an atheist who is pro-choice, I dislike the emotive, morally-judgemental use of the word "killing" here. However, I fully understand why someone who is pro-life for religious reasons might use this word even though lots of US religious pro-lifers are also pro-capital punishment and the right to bear arms etc to express their belief in this way, in addition to simply saying that they are pro-life.

I wouldn't expect her to be suspended for saying any of this though. Especially as she went on to qualify that "she would never impose her “morals” on women in her care"

However, if they think she should be, to be consistent, they also need to suspend Dr Upton.

Dr Upton stated a belief that "I am a biological female" and then went on to describe a situation where this belief means it's fine to deliver same-sex care if a female patient has asked for a female doctor.

If the nurse can be suspended on the grounds of fitness to practice for commenting on a theoretical situation relating to her belief, Dr Upton should be as well. Especially as Dr Upton stated a clear intent to impose a personal belief on a patient.

MissMoneyFairy · 01/03/2025 16:07

I'd have thought a midwife would only get involved in a termination that was deemed a danger to the baby or mother, don't gyne wards look after early terminations,

PrettyDamnCosmic · 01/03/2025 16:01

Here is the Archive version for those of us who don't subscribe to the Times.
https://archive.ph/5D9Nu

Myalternate · 01/03/2025 15:56

‘Sara Spencer, 30, was suspended and subjected to a fitness-to-practise investigation as a result of comments made on a private midwifery Facebook group in which she responded to a post asking: “Do midwives have anything to do with abortions, and can they refuse to take part in carrying them out because of their beliefs?”

🤔 The Abortion Act allows doctors the right to conscientious objection to authorising or performing abortions, except where this is necessary to save the woman's life or to prevent grave, permanent injury to her health.
So, why doesn’t she have the same rights?