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People with a cervix

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Globules · 28/02/2025 18:20

This has really annoyed me.

Official documentation from the NHS, aka the national medical professionals, should know that it's ONLY women who have a cervix.

What is this non sentence of all women and people with a cervix?

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Catza · 28/02/2025 19:11

arethereanyleftatall · 28/02/2025 19:04

Are you transgender? If not, then it's not your place to say.

I cannot believe you have just typed that out @Catza

So women aren't allowed to say what they find offensive, but transgender people are? Why?

Already addressed it elsewhere ..

MugsyBalonz · 28/02/2025 19:10

Transpeople are as entitled to cancer screening as non-transpeople. The aim of these posters and letters isn't to enforce an ideology or to pander to anything, the aim of them is to encourage as many eligible people as possible to access screening that could potentially save their life . Personally I'm happy for the NHS to use whatever wording they need to ensure that happens.

SophiePie · 28/02/2025 19:10

The NHS page on prostate cancer only mentions men for some reason...what about trans women?

Catza · 28/02/2025 19:10

WateryBottle · 28/02/2025 19:06

Your initial post implied that only trans people have a right to a say

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The post I was replying to objected to the previous post which suggested a couple of extra words to make other people comfortable is no skin off anyone's back. The poster then said she was offended as it was dehumanizing. Hence my comment that she couldn't possibly judge if a transgender man feels the same way or if they actually feel more included by this wording which, presumably, is what we would want seeing our strong feelings about sisterhood..

Nameychangington · 28/02/2025 19:10

TheNinny · 28/02/2025 19:01

This shite is always forced on women. Bet there won’t be nhs letters with ‘people with a prostate’ anytime soon.

Indeed

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WateryBottle · 28/02/2025 19:06

Catza · 28/02/2025 18:58

Sure. But women also includes transgender men (I assume, it is your stance) so do they not get a say now?

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Your initial post implied that only trans people have a right to a say

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TheDogIsMyShadow · 28/02/2025 19:06

Fedupmumofadultsons · 28/02/2025 19:03

Honestly I feel it's just madness now trans men . clearly have woman body parts well most do so we need to get the message across they need the same checks as us. just saying anyone that was born female might be better
But Honestly who cares I just treat it as the next craze and they will grow out if it soon .as most do so if we need to listen to them for a whole fine it will blow over soon in my opinion

I care. This ideology is harmful, especially to women and children. If we normalise wording like this, it normalises the harmful ideology and it spreads further.

arethereanyleftatall · 28/02/2025 19:04

Are you transgender? If not, then it's not your place to say.

I cannot believe you have just typed that out @Catza

So women aren't allowed to say what they find offensive, but transgender people are? Why?

Fedupmumofadultsons · 28/02/2025 19:03

Honestly I feel it's just madness now trans men . clearly have woman body parts well most do so we need to get the message across they need the same checks as us. just saying anyone that was born female might be better
But Honestly who cares I just treat it as the next craze and they will grow out if it soon .as most do so if we need to listen to them for a whole fine it will blow over soon in my opinion

TheDogIsMyShadow · 28/02/2025 19:03

steff13 · 28/02/2025 19:00

You may be more optimistic than I am, but I'd be willing to bet that there are people of both sexes that don't even know what a cervix is.

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All the more reason to make it clear on any communication that only women have them then. This just confuses things.

Happyher · 28/02/2025 19:02

Just say women and trans men. Everyone who’s targetted will then understand when I see ‘people with a cervix’ I always wonder how many men start to wonder if they have a cervix!?

TeenLifeMum · 28/02/2025 19:01

We have to say it. We have fought to include the word “women”! That honestly was a win.

TheNinny · 28/02/2025 19:01

This shite is always forced on women. Bet there won’t be nhs letters with ‘people with a prostate’ anytime soon.

IEatSauerkrautBeforeItWasCool · 28/02/2025 19:01

Like this it's fine. It's not deleting women.

steff13 · 28/02/2025 19:00

TheDogIsMyShadow · 28/02/2025 18:57

Everyone knows that only women have a cervix, some people like to pretend otherwise, but it is just pretend, they know the truth really.

I suppose at least they actually say women, I’ve seen things where it just refers to ‘people with a cervix’, with no mention of women at all. Madness. 🤪

You may be more optimistic than I am, but I'd be willing to bet that there are people of both sexes that don't even know what a cervix is.

SlipDigby · 28/02/2025 19:00

JustTalkToThem · 28/02/2025 18:55

The current one does say women though…

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I just had a look. It says "women and people with a cervix" which is arguably even more weird, confusing and inaccurate.

Gardeninging · 28/02/2025 18:59

^ sorry, the first para.

BananaBubbless · 28/02/2025 18:59

The last two years I’ve had colposcopy appointments ALL of their posters, leaflets etc have said person with a cervix.

At the time I was very scared and thought it was a bit of a kick that we can’t be acknowledged as women.

Incognitoburrito88 · 28/02/2025 18:59

This is fine. Some trans men don’t consider themselves to be men anymore and some non binary people don’t consider themselves to be either. They are included under the ‘people with cervixes’ bit and I am there under the ‘woman’ bit. If it only said ‘all people with cervixes’ I’d be slightly upset. As it stands I think it is totally fine. Surely we want as many people as possible to feel included so that our excellent screening program screens as many people as possible and continues to prevent cervical cancer 🤷‍♀️

Gardeninging · 28/02/2025 18:59

Goinggonegone · 28/02/2025 18:54

I think its because some transmen would refuse smear tests because they don't see themselves as female.
In response to another poster, saying "people born female" wouldn't work, as some of us no longer have cervixes.

This is a myth.

Catza · 28/02/2025 18:58

RobinEllacotStrike · 28/02/2025 18:44

WHAT?? You think women don't get a say in how they are referred to by the NHS?

Only women have cervixes. <truefact>

We see you.

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Sure. But women also includes transgender men (I assume, it is your stance) so do they not get a say now?

TheDogIsMyShadow · 28/02/2025 18:57

Everyone knows that only women have a cervix, some people like to pretend otherwise, but it is just pretend, they know the truth really.

I suppose at least they actually say women, I’ve seen things where it just refers to ‘people with a cervix’, with no mention of women at all. Madness. 🤪

Catza · 28/02/2025 18:56

MzHz · 28/02/2025 18:53

As a WOMAN, she has every right to say what she said.

only female bodies have a cervix.

its not THAT hard to comprehend, surely?

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Are you implying that a female is not a person? How is calling people people "dehumanizing"? I have announced more than once to my partner "as I am the only person with the uterus around here, I will be making decisions about x,y,z".

JustTalkToThem · 28/02/2025 18:55

MyFlightWasAwfulThanksForAsking · 28/02/2025 18:44

Imagine you have low literacy skills or English is not your first language. What's going to be easier to understand, "people born female" or simply "women"?

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The current one does say women though…

Softpebbles · 28/02/2025 18:55

Actually, just putting it out there that some women don’t have a cervix.

Mine was removed during my hysterectomy!