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Andrew Tate and brother leave Romania for US after travel ban lifted

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GreenTeaLikesMe · 27/02/2025 09:52

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2025/feb/27/andrew-tate-tristan-romania-us?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other. It seems that Trump successfully pressured the Romanian authorities into allowing this.

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AnSolas · 27/02/2025 21:24

SinnerBoy · 27/02/2025 21:03

I wonder what sort of financial pressure Trump's gang have put on Romania? Last week, they told him to wind his neck in.

They absolutely will not return to Romania voluntarily.

This will be a big, big test for de Santis, who has butted heads with Trump, in the past. I asked on Twitter if they have the capacity try people who have been accused of crimes abroad.

I hope so, because America has serious prison terms for cases like this.

My first question would be did they file their taxes?
Because Uncle Sam expects to US citizens to file and pay and any (ill) gotten gains.

Billyandharry · 27/02/2025 21:17

Every day things seem to get darker right now:(

BiggerBoat1 · 27/02/2025 21:11

Absolutely shocking that these two disgusting humans are free. The world is a worse place with them in it.

UtopiaPlanitia · 27/02/2025 21:08

TempestTost · 27/02/2025 10:48

Is it unusual for the American government to attempt to arrange the return American citizens being held in other countries to the US? I don't have any time for Tate but I think that's fairly normal? AFAIK they are still supposed to return for trial?

Big powerful countries like the USA, Russia and China often throw their weight around with other less powerful nations as a way of making sure those nations treat the citizens of the bigger countries well when they travel.

The Tates are thoroughly repellent men but they are also US citizens (because of one of their parents), so the current "America First" style government is going to help them as a way of making sure all US citizens abroad are not mistreated.

However, I hope that the US government will be a responsible global citizen and also ensure that the Tates are retuned to Romania to face trial and any further charges.

SinnerBoy · 27/02/2025 21:03

I wonder what sort of financial pressure Trump's gang have put on Romania? Last week, they told him to wind his neck in.

They absolutely will not return to Romania voluntarily.

This will be a big, big test for de Santis, who has butted heads with Trump, in the past. I asked on Twitter if they have the capacity try people who have been accused of crimes abroad.

I hope so, because America has serious prison terms for cases like this.

AnSolas · 27/02/2025 20:57

WarriorN · 27/02/2025 18:48

https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/1895144020428439820?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

🚨 #BREAKING: Governor Ron DeSantis says Florida does not welcome Andrew and Tristan Tate after they are flying back from Romania.

"NO: Florida is not a place where you're welcome with that type of conduct."

"Our Attorney General, James Uthmeier, is looking into what state hooks and jurisdictions we have to deal with this."

"I don't know how it came to this. We were not involved. We were not notified. I found out through the media."

And from what I understand they can pull the US passport at Federal level once they land back into the US (some kind of 14th amendment right) but can not deny entry.

But Ill bet Romanian would be happy to have issue an arrest warrent and hold a trial without them or just leave it hanging over them.

EarthSight · 27/02/2025 20:52

PronounssheRa · 27/02/2025 10:14

It's a curious thing going into bat for someone like Tate, don't most people (apart from those vulnerable to his bullshit) think he is nothing more than a repellent creep?

Makes me wonder what value he has for the US government. There has to be something.

Unless they can make a good case that this was some kind of human rights issue, then I think they've been flown home as a reward for being loyal. Trump seems to value this above all else, even if they're alleged traffickers it seems.

Another part of me is concerned that Trump wants someone like this on-side as he doesn't plan to leave the oval office as easily as he did last time, and even that time was dramatic. It comes across like he wants henchmen to intimidate the other side.

AnSolas · 27/02/2025 20:46

TempestTost · 27/02/2025 10:48

Is it unusual for the American government to attempt to arrange the return American citizens being held in other countries to the US? I don't have any time for Tate but I think that's fairly normal? AFAIK they are still supposed to return for trial?

No it would not be.
However they are (or claimed to be due to bribability of police) Romanian citizens too.
And rule of thumb would be local passport turmps US

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/Relinquishing-US-Nationality/Dual-Nationality.html

U.S. dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country (or countries, if they are nationals of more than one). They are required to obey the laws of both countries, and either country has the right to enforce its laws. Claims of other countries upon U.S. dual-nationals may result in conflicting obligations under the laws of each country. U.S. dual nationals may also face restrictions in the U.S. consular protections available to U.S. nationals abroad, particularly in the country of their other nationality.

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/02/2025 20:45

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 27/02/2025 20:27

American women are really stuck in a cleft stick. On the one hand, you've got the Dems handing women's spaces and sports to men; on the other, you've got President Pussygrabber stacking the Supreme Court and assisting raping trafficking pimps.

Not any more.

They chose a repeat sex offender and rapist. Who surrounds himself with other rapists, sex offenders and sex traffickers to be their Commander.🤷‍♀️

MrsTerryPratchett · 27/02/2025 20:33

Under his eye. In real time.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 27/02/2025 20:27

American women are really stuck in a cleft stick. On the one hand, you've got the Dems handing women's spaces and sports to men; on the other, you've got President Pussygrabber stacking the Supreme Court and assisting raping trafficking pimps.

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/02/2025 20:19

Trump loves rapists and sex traffickers, that's why he surrounds himself with them. I expect to see them in his Cabinet soon.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 27/02/2025 19:01

WarriorN · 27/02/2025 18:48

https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/1895144020428439820?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

🚨 #BREAKING: Governor Ron DeSantis says Florida does not welcome Andrew and Tristan Tate after they are flying back from Romania.

"NO: Florida is not a place where you're welcome with that type of conduct."

"Our Attorney General, James Uthmeier, is looking into what state hooks and jurisdictions we have to deal with this."

"I don't know how it came to this. We were not involved. We were not notified. I found out through the media."

Great, maybe they can find something to charge these worms with.

RiderOfTheBlue · 27/02/2025 18:56

Nah, they're not going back. I'll eat my hat if they step foot on Romanian soil again.

WarriorN · 27/02/2025 18:51

Who says Romania instructed them to return by 25th march and that this is a temporary move for family matters

WarriorN · 27/02/2025 18:49

Follow murdered by crayons on Twitter for updates

WarriorN · 27/02/2025 18:48

https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/1895144020428439820?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

🚨 #BREAKING: Governor Ron DeSantis says Florida does not welcome Andrew and Tristan Tate after they are flying back from Romania.

"NO: Florida is not a place where you're welcome with that type of conduct."

"Our Attorney General, James Uthmeier, is looking into what state hooks and jurisdictions we have to deal with this."

"I don't know how it came to this. We were not involved. We were not notified. I found out through the media."

WarriorN · 27/02/2025 18:47

https://x.com/agjamesuthmeier/status/1895163491411005694?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

Early this morning, I directed my office to work with our state law enforcement partners to conduct a preliminary inquiry into these individuals.

Florida has zero tolerance for human trafficking and violence against women. If any of these alleged crimes trigger Florida jurisdiction, we will hold them accountable.

TempestTost · 27/02/2025 17:47

MarieDeGournay · 27/02/2025 13:03

But didn't one Nigel Farage say recently that Tate was 'an important voice' for men, and gave confidence to boys, defended masculinity, and things like that?

So he is obviously prepared to go in to bat for him; though he did refer to the serious charges against Tate. So he's gone in to bat for him, but bat cautiously, a bit like Geoff Boycott.

I don't think Farage said quite that. If I am recalling correctly, the sense was more that Tate expresses things that seem to speak to a lot of young men at the moment because they feel emasculated. He seems middle of the road on Tate himself.

SarcasticIntrovert · 27/02/2025 16:07

This is frightening.

PaterPower · 27/02/2025 14:43

It’s extremely unlikely that either of the Tates will be tried for their alleged criminal behaviour in either Romania or the UK now.

With the caveat that we don’t know what external pressures Romania were put under from the point the brothers were first arrested, it’s regrettable that they couldn’t get the two in front of a court for over two years.

Had the Romanians got their act together, they would have been convicted (or exonerated) by now and Trump wouldn’t have had this option.

BettyFilous · 27/02/2025 13:50

CircleofWillis · 27/02/2025 13:31

Now I know what is happening. This is the part in a Marvel movie where all the supervillains congregate to form a huge conglomerate. Although Andrew Tate is definitely a minor henchman rather than a super anything.

The Deplorables?

CircleofWillis · 27/02/2025 13:31

Now I know what is happening. This is the part in a Marvel movie where all the supervillains congregate to form a huge conglomerate. Although Andrew Tate is definitely a minor henchman rather than a super anything.

unsync · 27/02/2025 13:23

@MarieDeGournay The irony of a Geoff Boycott reference with regard to a discussion about misogynistic men!

MarieDeGournay · 27/02/2025 13:03

PronounssheRa · 27/02/2025 10:14

It's a curious thing going into bat for someone like Tate, don't most people (apart from those vulnerable to his bullshit) think he is nothing more than a repellent creep?

Makes me wonder what value he has for the US government. There has to be something.

But didn't one Nigel Farage say recently that Tate was 'an important voice' for men, and gave confidence to boys, defended masculinity, and things like that?

So he is obviously prepared to go in to bat for him; though he did refer to the serious charges against Tate. So he's gone in to bat for him, but bat cautiously, a bit like Geoff Boycott.

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