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And in a 2 unit toilet situation its the
• Mens or
• Mens Disbled /Women /Womens Disabled /Baby

I know. It's horrific. There are a lot of disabled toilets so I don't think it's a major practical issue in terms of access for disabled people. But that's absolutely not the point. Maybe we should be asking the question why we have so few students/staff with physical disabilities and start to work on removing the very real barriers to access to third level. But it's easier to throw a new sign on doors and pat themselves on the back for eliminating discrimination against the most vulnerable group of all. Equality box ticked without any major effort or cost.

They’re already often taken over by people needing to change a child’s nappy. Lots of disabled toilets are baby changing ones too which isn’t great. Often quite smelly for a start.
It’s probably not a problem in work environments, but it can be an issue when out and about for sure.

I don't know that that was the case with all the laundries. I know a nun who was a magdalene nun. She told me stories about going with the gardaí to find women who had run away from the laundry. Maybe if you had a respectable male relative to collect you they would let you go but the women in that laundry were not allowed leave or look for a job outside.

Problem is though that you are not allowed to ask to see a GRC so have to "trust" them to comply this is the problem indeed, it's farcical!!

So they're taking over a space that is needed by people with a disability. Oh God the whole thing is really enraging me this week I don't know why. I'm so sick and tired of it all.

Despite what TENI Law claims, you do need a GRC to be considered as the other sex legally.

I have raised this at work as our equality procedures claim gender in legislation includes gender identity and that a GRC is not required to be entitled to be treated as the other sex. Problem is though that you are not allowed to ask to see a GRC so have to "trust" them to comply.

Where I work (university) they have renamed the disabled toilets as disabled/all-gender toilets. I haven't yet encountered a male in the women's toilets but there aren't too many students using the toilets I use so it may be different in other areas.

Not Sinn Fein though, they voted to reverse the policy change of 2023.

Oh I think they're all brainwashed by the NGOs. Not an ounce of critical thinking among them.

It seems the Fianna Fail and Fine Gael councillors voted to reject the motion (to change the policy back to the way it used to be) but Sine Fein councillors voted to support the motion. I was surprised by that tbh, I thought Sinn Fein were supportive of all things trans? I was wrong obviously.

Disappointed in FF and FG (again)!!

https://meathlive.net/2025/03/04/they-towed-party-line-with-lack-of-backbone-claims-councillor/

I've seen a few tweets about this, it is absolutely disgusting. The only way this will change is if parents get involved. Refuse to allow their girls to train or play in a match if a male is on the pitch. And sue the arse off LGFA if there have been any injuries.

https://x.com/GaelsFairPlay/status/1897196607793148093?t=74gYzBCtZSKvIhlVFhYU5g&s=19
Meath County Council

Thanks for that @fromorbit I've just read the whole piece and it is certainly positive.

Important according to Paddy O Gorman - looks like the TA agenda is being quietly sidelined at high levels.

Paddy O’Gorman’s Letter from Ireland
New Government Cooling on Trans Issues
When Simon Harris became Taoiseach (Irish prime minister) in April 2024, we noted at the time that he was the first person to have ever assumed that office to have pronouns in his social media profile. In the new Irish government, recently formed, Harris is now Tánaiste (deputy prime minister). Harris has removed the he/him from his page on Linked In. The change is significant. The incoming government is not greatly different in make-up from the last government; it is once again a coalition built around the two main centre-right parties. But the new government has radically reversed its predecessor’s support for the trans agenda.

More
https://genspect.org/paddy-ogormans-letter-from-ireland/

Progress for sure, lots more to be done and the damage is still going on in schools, prisons etc.

I noticed the 2023 prison report has 7 women listed under sexual offences. From memory that is very high as it was 1 to 3 per year in pre 2019 years

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/c5f3a-irish-prison-service-annual-report-2023/

TheKeatingFive
Its that the service has set up a solution.

He would be managed as a violent high risk due his history of attacks on female staff and if memory serves me the minimum male team was 5 officers in the youth service.

So the service can lawfully isolate him for the safety of staff and to protect the right of the women not to be atracked (i know the 2nd case 🤷‍♀️)

But the first one was 'only' violent to his child victim

He was the first male in 2019 a child sex offender moved out from Dublin (which has a dedicated womens complex ) after about 12 months.
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2019-09-06/553/

Then then there was the male done for assault in a pub in Dublin sentenced in 1 March 2021 2 yrs 1 suspended so by 2023

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2023-02-01/194/

Plus BK

There was a prison visitor report about one being called him by staff and the male staff doing stripsearching see 6(5) about gender of PO

https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2007/si/252/made/en/print#article6

The Paddy's podcast that deals with it makes it clear that the issues for the women preisoners involved are: loss of recreation and association time because of the men/TW (for safety reasons); having to listen to foul sexualised language from the men/TW; fear of the men/TW finding out about their own or their families' home addresses, personal details etc.; being forced to lie about the sex of the men/TW and being punished if they don't, in some cases by not being moved to prisons with educational and other supports.

It is disgraceful that women who have often lived fairly grim lives are having to take extra punishment to pander to males.

And of course the women prison and ancillary staff have their own problems.

And yes it costs an absolute fortune.

AnSolas my friend is a prison officer and works in a men's prison. As a pp said Barbie Kardashian is male and was in a female prison in a segregated unit, so it absolutely does happen.

Barbie Khardashian was moved from the women's estate in Limerick towards the end of his sentence. It was at a point where he was becoming a bit too visible and too many questions were being asked. And after the issues with his social worker.

My understanding is that there were still at least two men in the women's estate there at the time - still are there for all I know. So there's definitely a degree of case by case happening, even if this is not official policy.

I sense there is at least some unease/pushback from those working within the prison system (at the highest levels) but not out and out rebellion.

What ministry do prisons fall under I wonder? Is it justice?

The most frustrating thing here is that the laws are against us - the GRA was passed without much public awareness, and our equality legislation doesn't include sex as a protected characteristic, so we're pretty fucked really.

And most of the population don't even really know about this, it's not like the recent Referendum where people had an inclination to think about/ research the issues and there were radio discussions etc.

These laws were just quietly passed without public approval. I'm so angry with successive governments who have betrayed women.

Deadringer
My friend works in the prison service and says that despite self ID they deal with this on a case by case basis, usually trans prisoners are in a segregated wing, sometimes in a prison for the opposite sex, sometimes not.

Your friend is imo mistaken the law is clear.
Or has the Dail passed an amendnent to the prison acts?

If the prisioner is female they are not allowed to be in the male prison system.

LIimerick has been set up as the Male with GRC segregated wing, but without a GRC the prison authority has no lawful way to transfer a male from the male to the female systems.

And it would have been a misuse of public funds to spend €120k+ on one prisioner's social life if he could be moved to a specialist male sex offender unit for free.

Anyone who hasn't listened to Paddy's podcast, I do recommend it.

paddyspodcast.ie/episodes-3/

What is it about the media that has them so captured? I can see why politicians and policy-makers etc. have gotten caught up in it, but why do we have such blanket acceptance by main stream media? Whatever happened to factual journalism? To investigative journalism? I can't see what would be in it for them to go along with this illusion.