Daily Echo: Hampshire woman appears in court charged with raping girl

I've just checked the Evening Standard website. Limited to the London area. Six live reports of perpetrators sought and court cases involving violent and/or sexual crimes. All involving men.

Such crimes are covered heavily by the media.

When the perpetrator is male and is described and referred to as a 'woman' and 'she', we notice and we object.

Not a lecture, not telling you how to feel, just my point of view. But nice of you to try and invalidate my opinion.

Just pointing out the fact that this story has only made the headlines because it's a trans women and you've fallen for the patriarchal dog-whistles of vilifying a whole section of society based on an individual instead of addressing the systematic issues.

What the fuck are you on about mate? You're on a forum for women, generally mothers, and are surprised that people are angry that a rapist peadophile man is being called a woman in the media?

Did you mean to type 'reddit' or '4chan' into your search bar?

Indeed! I thought half term was over?? Maybe not

Nothing h like a bit of mansplaining along with the usual cliches - dog whistle, clickbait, cis gender - to lecture women whilst nailing their misogynistic colours to the mast

The fact that you're debating this case of rape and not the thousands of other rape cases shows that you care very deeply about this persons social identity as a trans woman. Likely so you can use it as ammo to bully and marginalise other trans women, who are innocent. Just as misogynists would use harmful stereotypes to marginalise others.

It does matter. And I'm sure their gender identity can be recorded too for the nuance that's necessary in statistics.

As I'm sure those statistics will show that this dog-whistle rhetoric that frames all trans women as a threat to women and children is just that. Click-bait and sensationalism to sell news ad-space.

Who said anything about roles? He cast himself in the role of 'rapist', a crime only men can commit.

Ah A Man has arrived to lecture women about how they should feel about a male rapist larping as a woman

lucky lucky us 🙄

So please do mansplain 'living as a woman' to me, an actual woman would love to know.

If you can avoid the words make up and dresses, that would be great.

Thanks in advance.

As an actual woman, and therefore in the category of human beings who commit only 1% of sexual crimes, I utterly object to this male person being misrepresented as a woman. Doing so skews public perception and - even more outrageously - in some cases, the official statistics used to measure crime and allocate resources to tackling it.

Facts matter. Accurate reporting matters.

And you seem adamant on defending this vile man. Why is that, I wonder.

It doesn’t matter if it’s 1 - it’s not a woman’s crime and therefore shouldn’t be recorded or reported as such.

I imagine this group would be equally as angry if we held biology as deterministic of your role in society... something feminism has fought hard against...

How many is it? There are perhaps a handful out of the thousands.... which is the expected ratio of trans people in the broader community...

It's just click-bait you're falling for.

It's implicit in the charges that the person in this case is natally male, and the fact that they live, socially, as a woman has no bearing on the charges that they are accused of. And the only reason you're here, discussing this case and not the thousands of others is that this person lived as a woman, not the nature of circumstances of the crime.

This has more to do with the stereotypes you want to enforce on people than the nature of the crimes they may have been accused of or even convicted of.

And there is no evidence that offending rates in the trans woman community can be extrapolated form the broader male population save for some twitter hack-job statistics. There's more to offending than chromosomes.

And I imagine people from any of the listed groups would be angry as well, had the rapist claimed they were, say, black when actually white, Christian when actually atheist, or poor if they had a million in the bank.

They were a man who raped a child - their sex has an absolute bearing on them committing a male crime. The media is correct to bring this to the public’s attention ton,

Wearing a pink headband doesn’t change what they did to a child. Any sympathy for the victim here?

The judge correctly sexed him today in closing the case
https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/24965017.hampshire-trans-woman-dies-southampton-rape-court-hearing/

Who are all correctly to referred to by their biological sex in the media.

Rape isn’t a woman’s crime and the perpetrator should be clearly referred to by their biological sex

Weird how many male sex offenders suddenly realise they’re women once they’re due in court

The objection is to describing and referring to a man accused of rape - an offence which only a male with a penis can commit - as a 'woman' or 'she'.

In other cases people have objected to a male murderer and a man convicted of inciting child sexual abuse being described and referred to as a 'woman' and 'she'.

These offenders are not women.

They are men, the sex class responsible for 75% of violent crimes, 93% of murders and 98% of sexual offences.

You seem to take some delight in their death. And I'll wait for the receipts on whether their identity had any bearing on their offences. I suspect it's just a dog-whistle the papers use to get your clicks...

The dead rapist in this case is a man pretending to be a woman, that's why it's unusual enough to be noticed.

Weird how complaints are only about missing out the identities you want to bully and marginalise... for instance would you complain that they missed out their faith, or their socio-economic status, or their profession?.....

So rare you see the headline "Rich, white, Christian pedophile...."....

Justice will be sought regardless of whether you deny someone their human right to identity or not... And bullying, nor vigilantism is justice...

Weird how it's only trans people that make the headlines instead of the hundreds of thousands of cisgendered people....