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Daily Echo: Hampshire woman appears in court charged with raping girl

158 replies

frazzled1 · 13/02/2025 11:22

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/24930914.woman-accused-sex-assault-children-appears-court/

The Mail reporting is clearer...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14392643/Transgender-woman-court-rape-girl-sexually-assault-boy.html

Transgender woman Maddison Wilson, 37, is accused of abusing the young girl 'with your penis' in 2011, according to the charge sheet.

Wilson is also accused of sexually assaulting a boy under the age of 13 around six years later.

The alleged sex offender spoke only to confirm their preferred pronouns of 'she/her' in the dock at Southampton Magistrates’ Court yesterday.

Transgender woman appears in court accused of raping a girl under 13

Maddison Wilson, 37, who identifies as a woman and lives in Portsmouth, is accused of attacking the young girl 'with your penis', according to the charge sheet.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14392643/Transgender-woman-court-rape-girl-sexually-assault-boy.html

OP posts:
Talkinpeace · 26/02/2025 16:48

The Echo covered the story because the guy raped kids.

They cover every story where blokes rape kids
REGARDLESS of what clothes they wear

ittakes2 · 26/02/2025 16:48

Sorry if I missed it on the thread but Maddison Wilson died on 14 Feb?

Trans woman Maddison Wilson charged with rape in Southampton dies - BBC News

murasaki · 26/02/2025 16:48

I haven't owned a pink hairband since ballet class aged 7. I must be a man.

Beowulfa · 26/02/2025 16:47

So sorry Dan, but it's 2025 and we don't have to pretend anymore. He's a bloke, he commited the most male of crimes, and nobody has to give a shit about his "social identity", or preferred pronouns.

I do give a shit that his woman cosplaying fucks up crime statistics, though.

TwistedWonder · 26/02/2025 16:47

Anyone getting Deja Vu ‘joke’ vibes?

INeedAPensieve · 26/02/2025 16:47

RaspberryScrubs · 26/02/2025 16:41

yy I would like to know what 'living as a woman' is.

I'll wait.

I think in the case of this paedophile rapist they "lived as a woman" by wearing a pink headband, if the original photo is anything to go by. With the male pattern baldness and stubble clearly on display. I'd say a 2 out of 10 for effort.

In all seriousness though, these are NOT OUR CRIMES. Another email to the BBC to complain I think tonight for me.

Also, this is so so shit for the victims. How dare they be gaslit like this. Fucking BBC and that fucking rapist. Doesn't deserve any respect for "pronouns". Hope he rots in hell.

Merrymouse · 26/02/2025 16:43

ProudDadDan · 26/02/2025 16:16

I imagine this group would be equally as angry if we held biology as deterministic of your role in society... something feminism has fought hard against...

So you can't explain 'living socially as a woman'.

You know what stands between me and biology determining my role in society? The ability to fight for and maintain rights that I need specifically because I am female. To do this I need to be able to say, for instance, that women's health care needs were affected disproportionally by the pandemic, of the impact on both maternity care and the morning after pill. I need to be able to talk about why closing of schools affected women more than men, even though my Gen X sensibilities tell me that shouldn't be the case.

I can't do any of this if 'woman' is just a collection of stereotypes that might have something to do with wearing a pink head band.

PepeParapluie · 26/02/2025 16:41

‘They live socially as a woman’

and yet commit crimes that by definition can only be committed by men. Whatever ‘living as a woman’ means, it certainly doesn’t include raping children.

RaspberryScrubs · 26/02/2025 16:41

yy I would like to know what 'living as a woman' is.

I'll wait.

murasaki · 26/02/2025 16:39

And still silence on what living as a woman is.

DrudgeJedd · 26/02/2025 16:37

Not a lecture, not telling you how to feel, just my point of view. But nice of you to try and invalidate my opinion.

No-one is trying to invalidate your shitty opinions Dan, we're just telling you that we don't care what they are.

Kittygolightlyy · 26/02/2025 16:36

ProudDadDan · 26/02/2025 15:50

Weird how it's only trans people that make the headlines instead of the hundreds of thousands of cisgendered people....

😂😂😂😂 Good one

(🤮)

krustykittens · 26/02/2025 16:35

ProudDadDan · 26/02/2025 16:28

Are they evading justice? What benefits do trans women get in the justice system exactly?

Are you fucking serious? How about the fact that they get put into women's prisons, where they can prey on a capitve population of women, while havign a much easier time of it than they would if they went to a men's prison? That's a pretty big benefit, right there.

BunfightBetty · 26/02/2025 16:34

ProudDadDan · 26/02/2025 16:25

Not a lecture, not telling you how to feel, just my point of view. But nice of you to try and invalidate my opinion.

Just pointing out the fact that this story has only made the headlines because it's a trans women and you've fallen for the patriarchal dog-whistles of vilifying a whole section of society based on an individual instead of addressing the systematic issues.

Ooh, another couple of dog whistles here.

‘Invalidate my opinion’ - because being ‘invalidated’ is the worse thing that can happen to someone, right? Far worse than being raped as a child, we shouldn’t bother to report or discuss that. And heaven forfend any adult should validate themselves 🙄

And we’re all just silly women ‘falling for’ ‘dog whistles’.

Almost the full bingo card in just a few posts.

murasaki · 26/02/2025 16:33

ProudDadDan · 26/02/2025 16:32

Can't be arsed, or just can't?

Ah, so you've admitted to being an MRA. Not that it wasn't blindingly obvious.

Kittygolightlyy · 26/02/2025 16:33

HRTQueen · 13/02/2025 12:28

why are they referring to this very dangerous man by the pronouns he prefers

this madness has to stop

I am beyond caring if I have agreed with so called right wing politics/media when women and children are at risk from these dangerous men

I am beyond caring if I have agreed with so called right wing politics/media when women and children are at risk from these dangerous men

Absolutely this. I look back a couple of years and remember how horrified or embarrassed I was to be called ‘right wing’ or ‘bigot’ or .. ‘on the wrong side of history’ 🤮 because I said men can’t change sex to be women, men should never be allowed in women only / safe spaces, don't call me ‘cis’ anything etc.

And now .. now I don’t give a flying fck what ‘they’ call me.

👏🏻 well done lefties well done

ErrolTheDragon · 26/02/2025 16:32

On what planet is raping kids remotely congruent with 'living socially as a woman'? Hmm

Are they evading justice? What benefits do trans women get in the justice system exactly?

There have been cases of more lenient sentences.

ProudDadDan · 26/02/2025 16:32

Theeyeballsinthesky · 26/02/2025 16:31

Oh DO fuck off dear

cant be arsed to entertain the MRA today

Can't be arsed, or just can't?

Velvian · 26/02/2025 16:32

ProudDadDan · 26/02/2025 16:12

It's implicit in the charges that the person in this case is natally male, and the fact that they live, socially, as a woman has no bearing on the charges that they are accused of. And the only reason you're here, discussing this case and not the thousands of others is that this person lived as a woman, not the nature of circumstances of the crime.

This has more to do with the stereotypes you want to enforce on people than the nature of the crimes they may have been accused of or even convicted of.

And there is no evidence that offending rates in the trans woman community can be extrapolated form the broader male population save for some twitter hack-job statistics. There's more to offending than chromosomes.

It matters, as the crimes of trans women are often recorded as female crimes. I also don't believe it is healthy or safe for society to validate paraphillic role play, which 'gender recognition' allows for.

StanfreyPock · 26/02/2025 16:31

TRA bingo anybody?
🍿

Theeyeballsinthesky · 26/02/2025 16:31

ProudDadDan · 26/02/2025 16:25

Not a lecture, not telling you how to feel, just my point of view. But nice of you to try and invalidate my opinion.

Just pointing out the fact that this story has only made the headlines because it's a trans women and you've fallen for the patriarchal dog-whistles of vilifying a whole section of society based on an individual instead of addressing the systematic issues.

Oh DO fuck off dear

cant be arsed to entertain the MRA today

murasaki · 26/02/2025 16:31

Are you going to give me the benefit of your wisdom re living as a woman please?

I'm eager to know what I should be doing.

eatfigs · 26/02/2025 16:28

ProudDadDan · 26/02/2025 16:28

Are they evading justice? What benefits do trans women get in the justice system exactly?

Have you heard of the Karen White case?

ProudDadDan · 26/02/2025 16:28

murasaki · 26/02/2025 16:27

You're right. There are indeed systematic issues. With rapists identifying as women, and in fact any man identifying as a woman.

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Are they evading justice? What benefits do trans women get in the justice system exactly?

murasaki · 26/02/2025 16:27

ProudDadDan · 26/02/2025 16:25

Not a lecture, not telling you how to feel, just my point of view. But nice of you to try and invalidate my opinion.

Just pointing out the fact that this story has only made the headlines because it's a trans women and you've fallen for the patriarchal dog-whistles of vilifying a whole section of society based on an individual instead of addressing the systematic issues.

You're right. There are indeed systematic issues. With rapists identifying as women, and in fact any man identifying as a woman.