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Daily Echo: Hampshire woman appears in court charged with raping girl

158 replies

frazzled1 · 13/02/2025 11:22

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/24930914.woman-accused-sex-assault-children-appears-court/

The Mail reporting is clearer...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14392643/Transgender-woman-court-rape-girl-sexually-assault-boy.html

Transgender woman Maddison Wilson, 37, is accused of abusing the young girl 'with your penis' in 2011, according to the charge sheet.

Wilson is also accused of sexually assaulting a boy under the age of 13 around six years later.

The alleged sex offender spoke only to confirm their preferred pronouns of 'she/her' in the dock at Southampton Magistrates’ Court yesterday.

Transgender woman appears in court accused of raping a girl under 13

Maddison Wilson, 37, who identifies as a woman and lives in Portsmouth, is accused of attacking the young girl 'with your penis', according to the charge sheet.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14392643/Transgender-woman-court-rape-girl-sexually-assault-boy.html

OP posts:
murasaki · 26/02/2025 19:27

A man unironically using the word patriarchal while mansplaining is amusing. If an over done trope.

borntobequiet · 26/02/2025 19:08

ProudDadDan · 26/02/2025 16:25

Not a lecture, not telling you how to feel, just my point of view. But nice of you to try and invalidate my opinion.

Just pointing out the fact that this story has only made the headlines because it's a trans women and you've fallen for the patriarchal dog-whistles of vilifying a whole section of society based on an individual instead of addressing the systematic issues.

Do carry on, please.

Everything you say adds wonderfully to the famous radicalisation effect of Mumsnet.

ErikaReadsTheDailyMail · 26/02/2025 19:00

ErikaReadsTheDailyMail · 26/02/2025 18:57

I hope this doesn't derail the thread (though it is relevant) but cam anyone point me in the direction of a blog article by Glinner from a while back?
If I recall, it was a long list of links to news articles of the "this doesn't happen" variety. Lots of cases of 'transgender women' transitioning at almost exactly the time of their court cases for rape.
I'm searching for it on his substack but I can't find it. It's from quite a while ago.

Sorry, answering myself.
Found it.
grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/this-never-happens

Worth a read if you haven't.

Merrymouse · 26/02/2025 18:58

Justice will be sought regardless of whether you deny someone their human right to identity

There is no human right to claim a particular identity.

There is a limited right to privacy.

ErikaReadsTheDailyMail · 26/02/2025 18:57

I hope this doesn't derail the thread (though it is relevant) but cam anyone point me in the direction of a blog article by Glinner from a while back?
If I recall, it was a long list of links to news articles of the "this doesn't happen" variety. Lots of cases of 'transgender women' transitioning at almost exactly the time of their court cases for rape.
I'm searching for it on his substack but I can't find it. It's from quite a while ago.

murasaki · 26/02/2025 18:53

ScoldsBridle · 26/02/2025 18:52

His brother said they had serious mental health issues. I feel so sorry for their victim. I’m sure people like India W will claim that ‘he was never transgender’ just pretending to be like I just saw them claim on their X account about Scots transgender paedophile Andrew Miller - who apparently had ‘no history’ of being trans and ‘never transitioned’ - unbelievable 😡

Well being revisionist historians is their usp.

ScoldsBridle · 26/02/2025 18:52

His brother said they had serious mental health issues. I feel so sorry for their victim. I’m sure people like India W will claim that ‘he was never transgender’ just pretending to be like I just saw them claim on their X account about Scots transgender paedophile Andrew Miller - who apparently had ‘no history’ of being trans and ‘never transitioned’ - unbelievable 😡

ErrolTheDragon · 26/02/2025 18:19

So rare you see the headline "Rich, white, Christian pedophile...."....

Well no, because there they can so often simplify it to 'bishop' - there's another one recently.

Ex-bishop admits historical indecent assaults on boy www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce85pr119r8o

They tend to get discussed on the Religion and Philosophy board. Yes, id complain if I saw reports about this man which misrepresented his 'faith, or their socio-economic status, or their profession?' but I don't think I've ever seen that happen.

BoeotianNightmare · 26/02/2025 18:10

Haven't RTFT. This makes my blood boil.

In the words on Almut Gadow (a law lecturer who recently settled out of court after the Open University sacked her for gender critical beliefs) "no offender should be allowed to dictate the language of his case in a way which masks relevant facts”.

LindaDarrah · 26/02/2025 17:59

I wonder if women would start wearing fake beards in protest, because, you know, it's normal for women to have stubble

Misshaped · 26/02/2025 17:29

ProudDadDan · 26/02/2025 15:55

Weird how complaints are only about missing out the identities you want to bully and marginalise... for instance would you complain that they missed out their faith, or their socio-economic status, or their profession?.....

So rare you see the headline "Rich, white, Christian pedophile...."....

Justice will be sought regardless of whether you deny someone their human right to identity or not... And bullying, nor vigilantism is justice...

This isn’t about bullying or marginalising. I’m disgusted by any rapist, whatever their background. The point (that you spectacularly missed) is that this is a man. Only a man with a penis can rape and this is wrongly being reported as a woman’s crime. Words matter and statistics matter. Words influence how we perceive someone, and women inherently know to be wary of men. Calling someone a woman when they’re not changes this. Crime statistics influence how we protect vulnerable people from crimes such as these. They should not be disregarded to appease someone’s feelings.
Most importantly, look at the victims here. The actual victims and not the rapist you’re so keen to defend. The victims have to live with what they’ve been through for the rest of their lives. They may not be able to trust or feel safe with men ever again and this is where biological sex really does matter.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/02/2025 17:25

Anyone getting Deja Vu ‘joke’ vibes?

I think they make these men in a factory somewhere. Standard issue misogynistic wokebro.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/02/2025 17:23

Sorry if I missed it on the thread but Maddison Wilson died on 14 Feb?

Yes.

murasaki · 26/02/2025 17:22

I see he has vanished without answering my entirely reasonable question.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/02/2025 17:22

I did notice that the MRA-alike couldn't bring themselves to use female pronouns.

Yes, it's only women who have to hashtag be kind.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/02/2025 17:21

Are they evading justice? What benefits do trans women get in the justice system exactly?

In Scotland, Canada, Ireland etc they often get to be in the female prison estate. Thankfully recent changes mean that isn't generally the case in E&W.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/02/2025 17:14

Desperate Dan may be missing the point that we quite often discuss male violence/sexual violence against women and girls.

Threads specifically about transwomen committing such crimes are often to a large extent criticising the way in which such crimes are reported. The report which began this thread initially reported it as being by a woman. It's been amended since.

And also of the utter unacceptability of male crimes being recorded as being by a 'female'.

The official court charge sheet identified Wilson as female. The rape charge stated that Wilson allegedly assaulted a girl “with your penis”.

We're not going to shut up about this sort of gross distortion until reality is restored.

lcakethereforeIam · 26/02/2025 17:01

Here's an archive like to the Telegraph article about the man's suicide that was posted upthread

https://archive.ph/loHG6

I did notice that the MRA-alike couldn't bring themselves to use female pronouns.

I'm sorry that the victims won't see this man face justice. At least they've been spared the ordeal of a trial with the possible added grotesquery of hearing 'her penis'.

I wish them healing.

murasaki · 26/02/2025 16:56

Beowulfa · 26/02/2025 16:53

My ballet headband was red (black leotard, red belt, very 80s A-Team van). Is this socially womaning enough? Or does it have to be pink?

I'm afraid you accidentally went to boy ballet, so must be a boy.

Ours was pink leotard, tights, silly skirt and hair band if needed. You got black at grade 4, which was much better.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 26/02/2025 16:56

Beowulfa · 26/02/2025 16:53

My ballet headband was red (black leotard, red belt, very 80s A-Team van). Is this socially womaning enough? Or does it have to be pink?

I fear as it wasn’t pink you are in fact living as man

that's how it works right?

Beowulfa · 26/02/2025 16:53

murasaki · 26/02/2025 16:48

I haven't owned a pink hairband since ballet class aged 7. I must be a man.

My ballet headband was red (black leotard, red belt, very 80s A-Team van). Is this socially womaning enough? Or does it have to be pink?

INeedAPensieve · 26/02/2025 16:53

murasaki · 26/02/2025 16:50

I feel sorry that the victim doesn't get justice.

Yep it's so horrible for the victim. No justice and the BBC gaslighting them. It's outrageous.

PTSDBarbiegirl · 26/02/2025 16:53

This is the reason that reasonably minded males and females don't want to enable child abuse by offering easy safe haven for abusers. I don't GAF what anyone wears and I hope for a less stereotype future for children re their biological sex. However, a huge part of this 'community' is deviant males looking for vulnerable females and/or ways to gain access to previously private places for females. No male I know would ever want to make a girl or woman, boy or man feel uncomfortable and THAT says everything.

TwistedWonder · 26/02/2025 16:52

Any sympathy for the child who was raped Dan and won’t see justice served or are you only concerned with the bloke in a headband in your cliche ridden, misogynistic mansplaining posts?

murasaki · 26/02/2025 16:50

I feel sorry that the victim doesn't get justice.