My 14 year old daughter has been sharing school changing rooms, including swimming, with a male. The school never told me, or her. What would you do?

I just don’t believe the OP has suddenly discovered this. Given that he has several threads on the exact same topic already. Sorry .

i also think a man not trusting “anyone with a penis , clothed or unclothed “ is a ridiculous thing to say.

Contact Transgender Trend - Who Are We? - Transgender Trend, consider a judicial review.

OP, what does your daughter's mother say about the situation?

Would be bloody Brighton.

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Look at the Swim England policies. Girls and boys separate and separate from adults.

Are you able to articulate what you find creepy?

But most of the girls will be very uncomfortable with a male in their changing room. They may not say so. They may even say 'but he's a girl really'. And even if they say they are happy a boy should not be in their changing room. It is teaching those girls that their boundaries mean nothing, that they should not even have boundaries. Which is an incredibly dangerous lesson for girls to be taught.

This is outrageous. I'm so sick of our girl's privacy and dignity being destroyed.

I disagree I find it creepy.

Oh give over with your ‘creepy’ - he’s just a concerned and plain speaking dad. You’ve completely missed the bigger issue of dystopian levels of creepiness.

Blimey! Imagine that? Imagine thinking that it is righteous that a male child should be in the change room with a female child and that anyone who doesn't agree doesn't belong in the area where they were born?

That takes some gumption. I think you will find many in agreement with you. Safeguarding children is not something to be dismissed with 'progressive' accusations. It is up to all people to follow robust safeguarding principles. And allowing male people into female changing rooms is not following robust safeguarding principles. It is the opposite.

Can they take using the changing room in turns?

It's damn awful.

I hate shared toilets. Men piss all over, don't clean up after themselves or don't flush their piss away!

I can't imagine sharing a changing room with someone who says they identify as a woman, cos whilst they might and that's their right, I don't have to trust them, do I?

This really is worrying for girls in Brighton. I’ve got no advice op (other than to look at the Transgender Trend stuff on schools - it’s clear and sensible) but wish you luck with your complaint.

Thanks for that useful spiel @MrsOvertonsWindow . I still find it very strange a man not trusting “anyone with a penis” despite all this. I find some of the ops comments about men quite creepy.

I would also be concerned about the issue being discussed though. Agree it’s not appropriate.

Good advice 2falls

Welcome to Mumsnet.
There's lots of information on here about safeguarding children that will explain why parents are so concerned about all this.
Nothing strange or odd about parents parenting.

I just find it a bit sus and creepy. but yeh I agree this shouldn’t be going on.

I actually don't mind how the message gets out to more and more people about what's going on.

We have to speak out

I agree with you @MrsOvertonsWindow, and you might not remember (but I do so thank you) that you helped me out enormously nearly a year ago with a similar letter I had to write to my dds school.

@SernieBanders i actually find it very strange that you have several threads about trans issues already and you have just “discovered “ this .
your comment about not trusting people with a penis clothed or unclothed around your daughter is very odd as well.

Homophobia!
There are and have already been young lesbian and gay children changing together in the correctly sexed changing rooms, this was never a problem or even a topic of conversation, until the trans lobby jumped on it as a shield and an excuse to dismantle safeguarding!
I'm a straight woman, I have no issues changing with a lesbian woman, we all have the same equipment!
We all value privacy from the opposite sex .
I can't imagine it's any different from straight men changing with gay men.

Yes. The last government oversaw all this as they funded Stonewall and the other trans lobby groups to gaslight children in schools that their bodies could be wrong but a sex change is the cure. Too little, too late was their response as the GIDS scandal unfolded and the nature of what had been inflicted on children unfolded.

Cass has started to reintroduce a child centred approach with her advice that schools socially transitioning children was NOT a neutral act But the transactivists grip is strong with parental alienation being a key tool they use (just take a look at the LGBT children board), Along with the notion that safeguarding children is regressive and right wing - as demonstrated on this thread.

Someone said upthread that children need their parents to step up and safeguard them if trusted adults are failing to do so. So that's what the OP is doing - and all credit to them.

We have to speak out

SernieBanders
yes I am her dad and to be perfectly honest it's having been a 14 year old boy that gives me the biggest worry about this.

what sort of things did you do as a 14 year old boy? that's very concerning

I for one was aware but didn't know it had progressed so far down the road.

Fortunately I don't have a daughter at school that could be impacted by this.