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I think males should be banned from female sport and anyone should be allowed to enter the male / open category. The US President has just signed an executive order saying this.

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SernieBanders · 05/02/2025 12:13

Females need their own sports for reasons of fairness, competitiveness and safety. I am glad that orders like this make it easier to talk about these issues without being called a biggot.

Everyone deserves fair opportunities, women and girls are under represented in sport, this can only help that get a little better.

Transgender sports people also clearly deserve opportunities to participate in sport and so trans women and men should be allowed to enter male / open categories or have their own categories if needed.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-transgender-athletes-3606411fc12efffec95a893351624e1b

President Donald Trump speaks during a news conference with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in the East Room of the White House, Tuesday, Feb. 4, 2025, in Washington. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

Trump to sign executive order barring transgender female athletes from competing

President Donald Trump is signing an executive order designed to prevent people who were biologically assigned male at birth from participating in women’s or girls' sporting events.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-transgender-athletes-3606411fc12efffec95a893351624e1b

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MyLimeGuide · 05/02/2025 21:02

Locutus2000 · 05/02/2025 20:43

Past caring, enjoy persecuting trans people.

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Enjoy indulging fantasists!!

ThisUsernameIsNowTaken · 05/02/2025 20:55

Chersfrozenface · 05/02/2025 13:19

No Executive Order that I can find on abortion rights.

Which are dealt with at state level, a situation which persisted throughout Democratic presidencies and which the Democrats made no attempt to alter.

Incidentally, at the same time as the Presidential election (and others) there were ballots on abortion rights in 10 states - and the measures passed in 7 of them.

Including Arizona, Missouri, Nevada and Montana, which Trump won.

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Because the judges who overturned Roe v. Wade are still sitting in the Supreme Court. That's why Trump appointed them.

TheKeatingFive · 05/02/2025 20:50

ThisUsernameIsNowTaken · 05/02/2025 20:47

Populists have simple answers for complex problems. They are not often able to deliver on their promises though. And it's 'bigot'.

Just what is so very complicated about biological men competing against biological men - and leaving women's categories alone?

GailBlancheViola · 05/02/2025 20:49

TheKeatingFive · 05/02/2025 20:45

But what about all the women losing out on their opportunities here? You don't care about them?

And was is 'persecuting' about telling people they can compete in their own sex class - like everybody else?

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Ah but you forgot that trans people must get extra rights and privileges. Being treated equally and the same as everyone else just won't do.

TheKeatingFive · 05/02/2025 20:48

JazzyJelly · 05/02/2025 20:47

They never seem to care about transmen either. I wonder what the common factor might be?

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We all know the answer to that 🫠

ThisUsernameIsNowTaken · 05/02/2025 20:47

Populists have simple answers for complex problems. They are not often able to deliver on their promises though. And it's 'bigot'.

JazzyJelly · 05/02/2025 20:47

TheKeatingFive · 05/02/2025 20:45

But what about all the women losing out on their opportunities here? You don't care about them?

And was is 'persecuting' about telling people they can compete in their own sex class - like everybody else?

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They never seem to care about transmen either. I wonder what the common factor might be?

TheKeatingFive · 05/02/2025 20:45

Locutus2000 · 05/02/2025 20:43

Past caring, enjoy persecuting trans people.

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But what about all the women losing out on their opportunities here? You don't care about them?

And was is 'persecuting' about telling people they can compete in their own sex class - like everybody else?

Locutus2000 · 05/02/2025 20:43

TheKeatingFive · 05/02/2025 20:43

And what? You agree? Or you don't?

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Past caring, enjoy persecuting trans people.

TheKeatingFive · 05/02/2025 20:43

Locutus2000 · 05/02/2025 20:41

Not really, it's all been said a million times before.

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And what? You agree? Or you don't?

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SernieBanders · 05/02/2025 20:43

300 people say otherwise. Stand up and be counted.

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Locutus2000 · 05/02/2025 20:41

SernieBanders · 05/02/2025 16:46

I hope this thread opened a few more eyes

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Not really, it's all been said a million times before.

AcquadiP · 05/02/2025 20:30

Completely agree with President Trump on this.

MyLimeGuide · 05/02/2025 20:29

EmmaMaria · 05/02/2025 12:59

Not getting involved in this toxicity one way or another - but this is at least the 3rd AIBU you have started, all on the "trans issue" in less than 24 hours. Avoiding the feminism boards because they are so toxic, so now it's "leaking" into other areas. Do we really need more of this? Nobody is going to change their minds, and between the "trans rants" (on either side), the M&H rants, the benefits / disabled people rants, and the bloody ads / crappy working of the site, it's getting to be a place that is no longer welcoming of anyone at all.

But you did get involved....

TheignT · 05/02/2025 20:22

arethereanyleftatall · 05/02/2025 19:32

Men only is already men only. The third category you speak of would also be men.

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Well don't call it open then. If it's a mens category call it what it is.

JazzyJelly · 05/02/2025 20:18

CovertPiggery · 05/02/2025 19:40

I agree.

I don't see how any feminists could vote for a man convicted of sexual abuse.

Let's not worry about the thousands of women and girls in Africa predicted to die from him cutting aid, at least sport will be fair 🙄

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You know the vast majority of us here are British, right?

CovertPiggery · 05/02/2025 19:40

StMarie4me · 05/02/2025 19:26

It's propaganda. Worked well in the 1930s. And oddly enough, what they accuse marginalised groups of. But when they follow a celeb who named themselves after the man who invented conversion therapy for gay men, I don't expect much more tbh. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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I agree.

I don't see how any feminists could vote for a man convicted of sexual abuse.

Let's not worry about the thousands of women and girls in Africa predicted to die from him cutting aid, at least sport will be fair 🙄

arethereanyleftatall · 05/02/2025 19:32

TheignT · 05/02/2025 19:29

If women can have women only sport why can't men have men only? Surely the fair option is 3 categories, male female and open.

Men only is already men only. The third category you speak of would also be men.

TheignT · 05/02/2025 19:29

If women can have women only sport why can't men have men only? Surely the fair option is 3 categories, male female and open.

StMarie4me · 05/02/2025 19:26

helpfulperson · 05/02/2025 13:50

It's frightening to see certain members of mumsnet suddenly become Trump fans. Please don't let the couple of good things he's doing blind you to the horrendous things he has done and is planning to do to womens rights and othe topics.

It's propaganda. Worked well in the 1930s. And oddly enough, what they accuse marginalised groups of. But when they follow a celeb who named themselves after the man who invented conversion therapy for gay men, I don't expect much more tbh. 🤷🏻‍♀️

StMarie4me · 05/02/2025 19:17

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 05/02/2025 12:58

Surely if "Trans women are women" were true the statement would be "women are women" which excludes trans women.
I'm cool with that if y'all are!

By your own argument it would include, not exclude. HTH.

MrsPeterHarris · 05/02/2025 19:04

Lovelysummerdays · 05/02/2025 12:19

Not a fan of Trump but woman and girls should be able to compete without having to pander to a mediocre bloke who can’t beat other men deciding to compete against women.

This!

maddening · 05/02/2025 19:04

Butchyrestingface · 05/02/2025 13:01

I’m interested to see how an open category works out. I predict just about every trans person getting the arses handed them in competitions that pitch them against biological men.

The boxing matches will be a sight to behold.

Presumably trans men if they are on testosterone treatment would have to compete in an open category too?

If they have never taken testosterone they could be in the women's- but once you have taken performance enhancing drugs i don't know how that would impact competing in even the open category?

sanityisamyth · 05/02/2025 18:59

littledotheyknow · 05/02/2025 12:28

Trans women are women

Why do they need the word "trans" before it then? Trans women are men. They have XY chromosomes. They have different physiques and musculatures.

NoSoupForU · 05/02/2025 18:58

arethereanyleftatall · 05/02/2025 12:55

@NoSoupForU - it's only 6% of TW who do actually do anything to transition. The other 94% don't make any changes to their body.

That just isn't correct. The number varies depending what study you're looking at, but generally around 50% of trans people use hormone therapy at the very least.

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