Stonewall change definition of transphobia - questioning gender identity ok now

You may be onto something here. Copper is in the same column as gold and silver in the periodic table.

I still found asexual on the list of terms just now.
I looked as I am the mother of an asexual daughter who is in her 20s and has known that she did not experience sexual attraction since her teens.

Do any of you making dismissive comments and jokes about asexuality actually know any asexual people or are you just making assumptions to fit with your views and have a go at Stonewall? I am going to guess the latter.

(I am a fairly regular poster on MN including occasionally on FWR, but I have posted about my DC in other contexts, so I am not using my regular name).

"“I may be cupioromantic, which means desiring a romantic relationship even though you don’t feel romantic attraction."

I misread that as 'cuprioromantic' and thought it was something to do with copper - most confused.

But no, it's 'cupio' related to 'cupere', to desire (hence 'cupidity' and of course 'Cupid').

Still think attracted to copper sounds interesting. After all, in legends dragons and dwarfs are very much attracted to gold.

"“I may be cupioromantic, which means desiring a romantic relationship even though you don’t feel romantic attraction."

I'm going to stop quoting stuff now. It's like shooting fish in a barrel🙄
(That's just a figure of speech, BTW in case there are any ichthyoromantics reading this..)

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/love-sex/relationships/a23304501/aromantic/

😑🫣 How will the human race survive?

I googled this flag [I know, I know, that's 3.5 minutes of my life I'll never get back!] and found out that it was designed in 2014 by somebody called Cameron Whimsy.

'The main color, green, was chosen as it is the opposite of red, which is most commonly associated with romantic love. The two shades of green represent the aromantic spectrum, white represents platonic love and friendship, and grey and black represent the different parts of the sexuality spectrum.'
Aromantic flag - Wikipedia

That doesn't make a lot of sense: 'two shades of green represent the aromantic spectrum' means what? But don't panic, Whimsy explains it further:

Whimsy described the meaning of the stripes in further detail:
green-light green - the aro-spectrum (and aromanticism itself represented by green because green belongs to us now hell yeah). this covers every identity under the aro umbrella - demi, grey, lith/akoi, wtf/quoiro, cupio etc. EVERYTHING. even ones that don’t have names yet.

white - basically the ‘platonic’ stripe - friendship/platonic and aesthetic attraction/queerplatonic relationships/family, the importance and validity of all non-romantic relationships and feelings and non-romantic forms of love etc. etc. etc. etc.

black-grey - the sexuality spectrum - acknowledging aro-aces, aromantic allosexuals, and everything in between because we are a diverse lot.[4]

So 'green belongs to us now hell yeah' ?- try saying that out loud in Dublin on March 17th😉

Quite a male outlook that, traditionally I think.

A red flag from me, myplace - after all that romancing, you go off and shag some bloke??🙄
😉

Yes, it seems as though the expected default is (to put it in old-fashioned terms) Lust without Love, and that feeling something for your sexual partner as a person is an optional extra that has to be spelled out rather than assumed. A very transactional view of sexual relations.

I don't know wtf they're saying now. But it will be more mindfuckery nonsense which supports men encroaching on women's spaces and rights. I doubt very much they're listening to people outside their fanbase.

If there is it should be edged with lace.

Is there a New Romantic flag for fans of Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet and other 80s groups?

I am a big fan of the Roman Republic. The Empire was also good but prefer the Republic. Does that make me a Romansexual or Romangender? Pronouns SP/QR

Is Romantic Attraction the new all road lead to Rome? 🇮🇹

Stonewall have a new chief executive, Simon Blake, who is very media savvy and well connected. (I have worked for same organisation as him in the past.)

I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in politics.

God, I’ve been doing it all wrong. No wonder life has been dissatisfying.

I’ve been trying to combine romance and sex because I didn’t realise there was a flag for me…

So, if I like to date women- wine, dine, share a film and a box of chocolates- but shag men, what am I?

Come on, what flag do I get?

Romance! you left out romance, BonfireLady!

I did... it was hurting my head too much so I ignored it 😂 but.....

So... there are really close platonic friendships, and there are sexless marriages, and those things have existed forever without adding up to a sexual orientation. Would it be very cynical of me to think Stonewall are trying to sneakily inflate the number of people falling under the rainbow umbrella?

Boom. This has to be it ⬆️⬆️

It's like non-binary all over again, in that we can all see a little bit of ourselves in what's described, ergo it must be all be true and only those that are bigoted and stuck in their dinosaur ways can't see it.

It still means that the "we need to educate ourselves" fits neatly in place because at a casual glance, it feels like knowledge that's just out of reach but accessible if you open your mind. This is basic Thetan level one stuff, if you will (the analogy being that to progress further you need to clear out the blocks in your mind to unlock the true you), accessible to all who currently do believe or who want to believe that we have a gendered soul. Obviously people are welcome to believe it - I just don't happen to do so, and I certainly don't want it in law, education, healthcare etc.

Well according to the SW definition I’m considered Demi sexual and come under the ACE spectrum which makes me part of the rainbow alphabet brigade rather than what I’d always considered myself a straight women who wasn’t into casual sex - who knew I’ve been one of the special ones all along?

Do I get an awareness week?

I'm starting to have some sympathy for the old conservatives who used to complain about LGB activists taking historical or literary examples of people with close platonic same-sex friendships and reinterpreting them all as homosexual relationships. Which was sometimes and maybe often true, but kind of implied that people can't be close friends without wanting to shag each other.

Stonewall's 'romantic attraction' seems to be a similar thing. If I try to parse how this might apply in real life, it would probably be something like 'I don't actually want to go to bed with Liz, but I'd quite like to have a girlfriend type relationship with her'. So deriving from the ace stuff even if they aren't foregrounding that any more.

So... there are really close platonic friendships, and there are sexless marriages, and those things have existed forever without adding up to a sexual orientation. Would it be very cynical of me to think Stonewall are trying to sneakily inflate the number of people falling under the rainbow umbrella?

So are lesbians not wanting ‘girl dick’ no longer akin to racists now?

Hard to keep up with the rapid backtracking and descent back into common sense.

Did you know some people who call themselves asexual do have and enjoy sex, but only with people they’re attracted to or have a connection with?

That's actually quite sad. And uncomfortable. Implies that the society around them expects them to have sex with whoever, regardless of how they feel about it. They seem to believe that"No. I'm not interested" is not enough, but that they have to excuse themselves with a label. Where does it come from? Why should people be expected to be sexually available?

They do like a circle definition 😂 Ab out as helpful as a woman is anyone who says he's a woman.

There is an aromantic pride flag, as below.

So a romantic (pride) flag would be... Stripes in the opposite colours on the colour wheel? Anyone want a go?

They can't sully themselves with helping gay people!