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Julie Burchill (legendary writer) is unwell

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TERFspice · 11/01/2025 19:59

https://x.com/boozeandfagz/status/1877678411142828088?s=46&t=p6GESSn09HWHVXYgTLIbJg

Can we have a Julie Burchill appreciation thread?

For those who don't know, she's the author of "Sugar Rush" and has written many pro sex/ anti gender op-eds over the years.

She's just posted that she has an abscess on her spine. Flowers

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Forcedtoresign · 15/01/2025 23:00

themostspecialelfintheworkshop · 15/01/2025 22:37

In your single opinion. Others have given examples of huge generosity.

I do remember once reading a JB piece that made me laugh when I was at my lowest, and it made a difference, and I bet I'm not the only one.

It's depressing that even on here we have people complaining that women aren't 'good human's' when they're not perfect in every aspect of life.

It's also - IMO only of course - generally quite shitty to give your negative opinion on a thread which at the start specifically states it's an appreciation thread and is because Julie is ill.

No-one's stopping you of course - free speech and all that - but some of us might feel free to judge you on your actions too. I don't see the point myself - do you think your single opinion will somehow convince all of us that have appreciated her significant body of work over the years that she's somehow not a good writer who's made us think and laugh?

In your single opinion.

themostspecialelfintheworkshop · 15/01/2025 22:37

Forcedtoresign · 15/01/2025 22:16

Not demanding purity - Jeez! She’s just not a good human.

In your single opinion. Others have given examples of huge generosity.

I do remember once reading a JB piece that made me laugh when I was at my lowest, and it made a difference, and I bet I'm not the only one.

It's depressing that even on here we have people complaining that women aren't 'good human's' when they're not perfect in every aspect of life.

It's also - IMO only of course - generally quite shitty to give your negative opinion on a thread which at the start specifically states it's an appreciation thread and is because Julie is ill.

No-one's stopping you of course - free speech and all that - but some of us might feel free to judge you on your actions too. I don't see the point myself - do you think your single opinion will somehow convince all of us that have appreciated her significant body of work over the years that she's somehow not a good writer who's made us think and laugh?

Forcedtoresign · 15/01/2025 22:16

WhoPutTheBomp · 15/01/2025 19:37

Ok but no ones asking you to declare yourself a fan. All these demands for purity!

Jeez.

Not demanding purity - Jeez! She’s just not a good human.

SettlerofCatan · 15/01/2025 21:54

Well done TERFspice for starting such a great thread and if it really is you Julie (Raven/Burchill/Godess).. thank you so much for your incredible writing which I have loved all my adult life… I know you know it already but it never hurts to hear it from someone else as well .. you are so talented and brave.. quite Burchillian !!

BeckyBloom · 15/01/2025 21:20

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ArabellaScott · 15/01/2025 20:46

God yes, what an album.

duc748 · 15/01/2025 20:30

i do have one strong memory from those early days that I've always carried with me, and that is reading the review in the NME of Horses by Patti Smith (don't remember who wrote it, though), and going straight into town and buying that beautiful LP, with the B&W photo (Mapplethorpe) of her on the sleeve, and thinking, what a fucking record this is! Still do.

ArabellaScott · 15/01/2025 20:07

WhoPutTheBomp · 15/01/2025 19:37

Ok but no ones asking you to declare yourself a fan. All these demands for purity!

Jeez.

For sure. Imagine if we were all human beings who pissed each other off sometimes, disagreed, rubbed along and got over it?

Quantum6 · 15/01/2025 19:53

Just read Julie’s wonderful and barbed article on the sad demise of “Coronation Street” in ‘The Spectator’. A bright beacon in a world of dreary self-regarding drones. Was very shocked you have been in hospital - 💐

Shimmyshimmycocobop · 15/01/2025 19:39

I've always made a point of reading you Julie, I have disagreed with your views about 50%of the time but yhe writing was always entertaining. Funnily enough it happens much less these days, I'm glad you are reading these comments!

WhoPutTheBomp · 15/01/2025 19:37

Forcedtoresign · 15/01/2025 19:22

Not a fan after her comments on IVF!

Ok but no ones asking you to declare yourself a fan. All these demands for purity!

Jeez.

Shortshriftandlethal · 15/01/2025 19:37

Dawninglory · 14/01/2025 12:15

I don't think motherhood is the only thing women are good for. But alot of Mums on this thread are talking about her as some kind of amazing woman to the cause of Womankind. Just saying that she's not in my opinion.

I don't think it is so much about being "an amazing woman" as much as being an interesting, challenging and unique human being.

Forcedtoresign · 15/01/2025 19:22

Not a fan after her comments on IVF!

andHelenknowsimmiserablenow · 15/01/2025 19:20

So sad to hear that. I've always loved her fearless writing. She has always been brave enough to write the truth when others were too scared.

PIKNIK20 · 15/01/2025 19:13

StMarie4me · 14/01/2025 03:28

This about Julie Burchill?

yes, I know now!

DoNotAdjustYourSex · 15/01/2025 07:32

Hi Julie, admire you and a lot of your work, and took my daughter to see your play Making Marilyn last year, which we both loved.

I look forward to enjoying more of your writing in the years to come.

Battytwatty · 15/01/2025 06:33

I was only thinking about Julie yesterday when listening to an old desert island discs - I remembered listening to Kirsty interview Julie. Julie was just so refreshingly honest. And I thought Kirsty was a rude twat!

JulieRaven · 15/01/2025 06:26

I'd like to add that I WAS a bad mother and very selfish all my life. I DON'T think bad fathers get picked on in the same way - they're often romanticised - but I don't mind being criticised, so I'm not bothered by it and won't be sulking or challenging anyone who thinks that way. Fair enough!

JulieRaven · 15/01/2025 06:18

She's the great campaigner and activist - I'M the great writer!

JulieRaven · 15/01/2025 06:13

Wow, thank you all, I'm knocked out. I love Mumsnet and have been spying on you for years!

VeryQuaintIrene · 14/01/2025 22:54

Julie Burchill's columns are the only reason I still subscribe to the Spectator and I wish her well - hopefully she will still be able to write stuff that cracks me up even as my Guardian reader side tries to disapprove.

Startoftheyear2025 · 14/01/2025 22:44

I've always loved your writing. Koko.

MorrisZapp · 14/01/2025 22:40

I'm a Karen which I feel is Julie adjacent. Your words have reached so many women in so many wormholes, just when they most needed them. All the very best to you Julie xx

ScribblingPixie · 14/01/2025 22:35

She's such a trooper. And her writing makes me laugh really loudly quite often. I absolutely wish her all the best.

FagsMagsandBags · 14/01/2025 22:32

It's nice of you to come and say hello to us all, @JulieRaven you won't remember me but we met up on a GU talk meet and all went back to yours. You gave me a beautiful bottle of perfume because I liked the smell and gave things to others there as well because you're clearly a very generous person and much kinder than most people would ever guess. I'm sorry you're going through it but your piece was beautiful and summed up a lot of the things I was thinking last year when there were at least two separate occasions that I could/should have died. I annoyed myself some of the time because I was so fucking Pollyanna, but it got me through stuff and I'm pretty sure your way of looking at this totally shite thing that's happened to you will get you through it as well. I have no doubt you'll be less Pollyanna than I was and that's no bad thing. Seriously, way to bore yourself rigid. I hope you can walk again but if not may your wheelchair always be the most comfortable and your painkillers top rate.

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