Another legal case - Family sues NHS for prescribing child cross sex hormones

Good spot.

@Ilikeanicecupofteainthemorning I agree it doesn't sound good.

I wonder if it is referring to the impact of a compromised endochrine system and/or surgery complications. I could well imagine several of the impacts worsening with age, like incontinence. Females who take testosterone and males who undergo vaginoplasty can sadly expect to be incontinent.

Obviously anyone can get incontinence or double incontinence. But having either or both from a young age doesn't bode well for the future - a worsening impact sounds plausible and would fit the description of a loss of autonomy.

I'm interpreting it as meaning that the patient can't stop taking sex hormones, even if they want to, because of the impact on their health. They can switch to correct-sex hormones or stay on wrong-sex ones, but they can't just stop.

I don't know but it doesn't sound good does it

Re-reading the thread as it has resurfaced and I noticed this for the first time: "loss of body autonomy in later life."

'The Cass Report describes that the absence of an extended assessment and / or absence of ongoing therapeutic relationship with a specialist clinical team risks a premature and inexorable commitment to a medical pathway, with potentially irreversible physical and psychological effects (including impaired physical growth, sexual functioning and cognitive development), and loss of body autonomy in later life."

What is this referring to: "loss of body autonomy in later life."?

The case rumbles on. Catching up with my emails, just read Nick Wallis's Gender Blog (this dated 13th May 2026).

A parent taking the WellBN gender clinic in Brighton to court over the treatment of his child has lost his bid to see the results of a recently completed investigation into potential malpractice at the clinic.
The report was commissioned in June last year. As part of its scope, investigators were asked to:

• Identify patient harm and potential harm requiring onward monitoring.
• Ensure patients are supported and receiving high quality care.
• Identify any breach of the Government’s legislation that places restrictions on the supply of GnRH analogues.
• Consider whether any referral of individuals to the police is necessary.
• Individually review a holistic care and treatment plan for patients to include the following options where appropriate, to safely terminate the use of NHS prescribed exogenous hormones where this is clinically indicated and/or secure access to
• psycho-social support in the commissioned gender services and/or within CYP mental health services.
• Alert the ICB to any other concerns that become apparent as an outcome of the case note review.
• Identify any recommendations to reduce future risks to patients for action by individual NHS services, the ICB or NHS England.

it's amazing how these clinics just carry on regardless, whilst the NHS does nothing.

For some reason, this caught my eye, and I remembered ...

But there are people who don't believe TIM are women because they don't like TIM (or gay people, or immigrants or lots of other people).

Ye-es, kind of, there certainly are people who believe everyone should be nicely gender conforming and who get very offended when they're not. But that has nothing to do with whether they think TIM are "really" men or women. In fact quite a lot of right-wing and homophobic people who are big into gender conformity and don't like people people being "different" are actually very happy with the TWAW narrative. For them it neatly solves the problem of butch women and effeminate men - they can just decide that butch women are "really" men and that effeminate men are "really" women. For them it's a bit of surgery, a few hormones, and wrongness is solved.

Gender ideology can work just as nicely for narrow-minded rightwing homophobes as it can for woolly liberals. So you do really need to look at the facts and not at the company they're keeping. And we need feminism to centre women in all this, so as not to let women get pushed aside either way by left or rgiht wing.

That's why the UK is "TERF Island" - for instance women here don't have to choose between reproductive rights and sex-based rights. Very unlike the US where you can't e.g. stop the organisations that transition teenagers without attacking one of the main providers of contraception (Planned Parenthood). But a lot of the rhetoric is imported from the US, and especially rhetoric about right-wing/Christian groups.

America is quite a religious country and if you're interested in what American churches really think, listen to Cory Cohn from about 18 minutes in.

I know this is deviating from the thread a little but I wanted to take a little time for the responses to my "fascist funding" comment to percolate through my subconscious over Christmas.

I've read and re-read with an open mind and am really listening.

I think what you said Bundle is really interesting. The truth is the truth but I do think it matters if you get there a different way. I am gender critical for a number of reasons which will be familiar to those on this board. But I think that there will be others who says that TWAnotW because they don't like people who are different.

So I think it does matter where we start from. I am a proper liberal wishy-washy do-gooder who believes that TIM are not women. Mainly because I'm a feminist. But there are people who don't believe TIM are women because they don't like TIM (or gay people, or immigrants or lots of other people).

I am not used to being on the same side as people I would view as bigoted and when I find myself watching the Sandie Peggie news on GB News it makes me double take.

I may be completely overthinking this but equally there is so much amazing thinking on this board if be very grateful if someone else could articulate what I'm trying to say and psycho analyse me. 😁

I find this all fascinating and will continue to mull it over while I draft my response to the girl guiding email.

The Darlington nurses are still having to crowdfund alongside whatever support they're getting from Christian Concern.

I had not realised. Thank you for tipping me off.

The truth is the truth though. It doesn’t matter if you dislike the truth teller or what you perceive to be their motivations - the facts remain the same.

Accusations of ‘right wing’ and ‘fascist’ are just desperate attempts to shut down and discredit women talking about our rights. It’s all they’ve got though as the truth is not on the side of the accusers. They are wrong.

From ‘Sophie’s’ article

I thought the online meetings would be private and secure – they were not! I was able to find the email to request access on an NHS Sussex webpage. A link to join the meetings was emailed to me with no questions asked as to who I was.
I understand parents were informed no journalists would be present, but the meeting’s organisers cannot possibly have known this and I was given no official guidance that this was a closed meeting or subject to reporting restrictions.

Oh wow! So it didn’t occur to him that a private meeting between the NHS and parents about their child might be… ‘private’?? And not for him to barge in and share online the discussions he heard? Absolutely bonkers - I mean we know he has little concept of boundaries but this is extreme surely?

I agree that it is a useful narrative for transactivists to push. It is a shame people like the Liberal Democrats, the Greens, Labour (and even many Conservatives) fall for it, stop thinking for themselves and lean towards a trans propaganda stance for fear of seeming right wing. Maimonides said wisely that we should recognise the truth wherever it comes from. Not that opposing this cult just comes from Trump and American Evangelical Christians.

People who have nothing to do them have been aware of and troubled by the transgender queer theory trend before they were. And it is actually the doctor here who is him/herself the tool or mouthpiece of an authoritarian agenda driving an ideology.

Doctors like this one in Brighton, pushing through treatments on children without sound psychological prior exploration, who may well effectively be the homophobic ones.

Many GC women who are not right wing have funded recent U.K. court cases and JK Rowling is a special example As for those cases funded by Christians they are fewer, but when they are, that does not make any case more or less legitimate.

This ‘GC is fascist’ narrative is so far off the truth, and so offensive, somehow implying (if we think of the case in the OP) that a parent not wanting their child to get caught up in the hands of a doctor like this, is someone under the cosh of fascists.

edited to add Conservatives.

Exactly.

Guilt by association muddies the waters and detracts from the substance of what is being done.

I don’t make my opinions by looking around to see who shares them and jumping on/off board accordingly. I’d rather form my own by observation, research and thinking.

By the way I don't know of any actual evidence that far-right groups are heavily funding lots of gender-critical legal cases. The Darlington nurses are still having to crowdfund alongside whatever support they're getting from Christian Concern.

On the other hand a lot of trans-ideology campaigining organisations get substantial financial support from big charitable foundations and governments. And there is a huge amount of public funding going into the gender-ideology side of legal cases. The Scottish/UK taxpayer paid for all the defense in the Supreme Court FWS vs. Scottish Govt caseswhile FWS were mostly crowdfunded (with a chunk but not majority from JKR)

At the moment, in the UK "far-right Christian infuence" is still more of a bogeyman to scare good liberal-leftie secularist progressives than a real threat. But if all the liberal-leftie secularist progressive groups insist that transitioning kids and letting men into women's changing rooms is just fine then that wont last forever.

Well, I never saw this as a left-right issue myself, or a religious-secular issue either, or a broadly conserative-pogressive issue. There are people on all sides of this who are pro-transition and anti-transition. "We'll fix this effeminate boy by turning him into a girl so he - oops she - wont grow up to be a sinful homosexual man" is an argument in some fundamentalist religious circles as well.

I would expect to find support for from many different political perspectives, including some that I powerfully disagree with, even about sex and gender conformity. And when people on any side of left-right, religious-secular or conservative-progressive decide that everyone with even the mildest gender critical arguments belongs on the opposite side then they leave an open goal for their opponents to shoot at. And I blame my own side - the lefties, secular people and progressives - for leaving the open goal.

So if a conservative Christian group are supporting the Darlington nurses or a Christan nurse correctly sexes a paedophile and the press make more fuss about the fact that she's a Christian than that he's a paedophile with a trans identity - well tough shit on us. What did you expect? I'll support the substance of the case not the guilt-by-association.

What, like the Christian nurse and the paedophile? That story? I'm pretty comfortable taking her side over his.

Anyway, no hatm in checking one's own bias and judgement. Should be done frequently.

I don't disagree with "heavily funded far right fascist campaign" to be honest (well, apart from "far-right" and "fascist" being tautological).

Funding of court cases by conservative Christian groups is the part of this that I'm really uncomfortable with, as my outlook doesn't align with theirs anywhere else. Same for GB news, alt-right commentators. It does still make me stop myself sometimes and ask myself if I haven't got this completely wrong, given the ideological company I'm keeping.

I give my head a shake of course but I really don't think it helps the British feminist GC cause to be associated with people who are coming at this from a homophobic, anti-feminist, gender stereotype standpoint. If I were on the "trans side" I'd be pushing this narrative too. For those who aren't following this closely, instinctively would you want to be on the side of Trump and GB news?

I do sometimes run through in my head what would I do if I wanted to go to an Employment Tribunal, and the only way I could do it would be to be funded by Christian Concern money. Would I still do it?

Oh, dear.

That oh so sweet, reasonable voice of this doctor. Apparently there is a heavily funded far right fascist movement seeking to overturn world best practice trans ‘health care’ for children. You can see the doctor speaking on video clip.

"Wing-Frith Syndrome" would be a fantastic term for the high-masking presentation typical of autistic women and girls.

Adding this new info:

https://archive.ph/BOQnp

'....Dr Sam Hall’s recent replacement.

“Dr. Laura Marshal Mattthews has quickly become a vital ally to our community, stepping in to protect our children by taking on prescribing responsibilities and bravely standing her ground against the ICB [NHS Sussex].”

This summer NHS Sussex ICB launched an investigation into WellBN for continuing to prescribe puberty blockers and hormones to their existing (Pre-puberty blocker ban) under-18 trans patients,...

Fern does however have great admiration for Dr Laura Marshall Matthews ability to continue treating these patients under very difficult circumstances.

Fern says “ She is only human, and at times it’s clear she has been overwhelmed, not because she lacks ability, but because she has faced the traumatic realities families have shared and the immense complexity of trans healthcare while learning at pace.”'

This from 'lournalist' Sophie Molly,

'I thought the online meetings would be private and secure – they were not! I was able to find the email to request access on an NHS Sussex webpage. A link to join the meetings was emailed to me with no questions asked as to who I was.
I understand parents were informed no journalists would be present, but the meeting’s organisers cannot possibly have known this and I was given no official guidance that this was a closed meeting or subject to reporting restrictions.'

https://archive.ph/7A4Yx

The NHS invites anyone, absolutely anyone, at any time, to report fraud to the Counter Fraud Authority. That is how they usually catch staff who steal NHS property and sell it on eBay.

OMG. My blood ran cold when I saw this comment.

That poor mum. She has fought so hard for her child. The heartache she must have felt when she found out she'd been deceived 😢💔

I had somehow managed to miss this and was feeling optimistic that this mum was breaking new ground. Optimistic too for her daughter. It's so sad that the daughter was already being harmed all along. I hope that dad hangs his head in shame when the full scale of this medical scandal comes to light. His ex-wife was trying to tell him and he didn't want to listen.

That link needs to go to whomever is investigating the clinic, doesn't it? Anyone know who that would be?

How to report NHS fraud:
https://reportfraud.cfa.nhs.uk/

Admission of defrauding the NHS:
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She should be struck off.