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Zoe Watts. BBC report is misleading.

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Signalbox · 15/12/2024 16:29

I cannot understand how this report isn’t considered to be misleading. Anyone who didn’t know would have no idea that Zoe Watts is a man who claims to be a woman. Surely the BBC should be obliged to make this clear even if they do use ideological language to make the point.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2ekm47m2po

“13 December 2024
A former Lincolnshire Police worker has been accused of multiple firearms offences.
Zoe Watts, who had worked as a police community support officer for more than eight years, was arrested after armed police were called to her home in Lincoln on Wednesday.
She is charged with possessing a firearm when prohibited for five years, possession of a firearm without a certificate and manufacturing a firearm weapon.
The 38-year-old, of St Helen's Avenue, did not enter any pleas when she appeared at Lincoln Magistrates' Court on Friday and has been remanded into custody until 13 January when she is due to appear at Lincoln Crown Court.”

Zoe Watts has medium-length hair, which is dyed purple and reaches past her shoulders

Former Lincolnshire police worker charged with firearm offences

Zoe Watts was a police community support officer in Lincolnshire for more than eight years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2ekm47m2po

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pontefractals · 20/12/2025 12:15

NoBinturongsHereMate · 10/08/2025 10:42

That's a very incoherent FoI.

An awful lot of them are. Either that or they're thinly disguised ways of getting their market research done on the cheap. I genuinely support the principle behind the FOIA but fuck me does it get abused by idiots.

JellySaurus · 20/12/2025 12:01

yetanotherusernameAgain · 10/08/2025 07:47

That FOI request refers to "transmen" but defines them as male at birth but having a female identity:

"Whether the transmen prisoners (i.e., male sex assigned at birth, female gender identity) in female prisons are all incarcerated in the same prison, wing or cell? In other words, how are transmen currently distributed across female prisons in the UK?"

That’s because she is using the English language correctly, not the made-up ideological nonsense. Trans men = men who are trans, just as criminal men = men who are criminals.

This is why so many people think that ‘transwomen’ are female.

Pleasantsort2 · 20/12/2025 11:53

defrazzled · 09/08/2025 09:14

I was a victim of Jimmy Savile and they denied he was a dangerous pervert repeatedly, resulting in my banning from contacting them and being listed as a vexatious complainant in 1998. A status I hold to this day. The middle class woke bbc hates working class white people and women so much it utterly blinds them to the truth. This is the same old shit on a different flavour. They are a national disgrace.

I'm so sorry. I no longer pay for TV licence while they enable women haters and child abusers. They have done it too often.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 10/08/2025 10:42

That's a very incoherent FoI.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/08/2025 10:40

Just checked and you’re right! That’s hilarious. Good old Deborah and her “activism”.

ArabellaScott · 10/08/2025 10:37

yetanotherusernameAgain · 10/08/2025 07:47

That FOI request refers to "transmen" but defines them as male at birth but having a female identity:

"Whether the transmen prisoners (i.e., male sex assigned at birth, female gender identity) in female prisons are all incarcerated in the same prison, wing or cell? In other words, how are transmen currently distributed across female prisons in the UK?"

I thought she was positioning herself as an expert on trans issues?!

NeelyOHara · 10/08/2025 07:58

This is outrageous, why the fuck can’t they be in isolation at a male prison? I wish the other inmates had a voice.

yetanotherusernameAgain · 10/08/2025 07:47

That FOI request refers to "transmen" but defines them as male at birth but having a female identity:

"Whether the transmen prisoners (i.e., male sex assigned at birth, female gender identity) in female prisons are all incarcerated in the same prison, wing or cell? In other words, how are transmen currently distributed across female prisons in the UK?"

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/08/2025 23:50

ArabellaScott · 09/08/2025 23:03

An overview of trans inmates from an FOI from 2024, based on data from 2023.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/population_of_transgender_offend#incoming-2641337

FOI made by Deborah Frances White, funnily enough.

😂 wonder if she was happy with what she found out

ArabellaScott · 09/08/2025 23:03

An overview of trans inmates from an FOI from 2024, based on data from 2023.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/population_of_transgender_offend#incoming-2641337

FOI made by Deborah Frances White, funnily enough.

Whatthechicken · 09/08/2025 10:00

FeegleFrenzy · 09/08/2025 05:54

@Whatthechicken is anyone challenging this do you know?

Rebecca Paul MP is doing a fab job and asking all the right questions, but as with everything on this topic, the gov are really mangling language and 2+2 is really making 5 and nothing is transparent. They really are trying to get around the SC ruling with Downview.. It’s hard to know exactly how many men are in women’s prisons, because if they have a GRC they are put into all systems as female. We definitely know of the 7 in Downview (not sure if that includes Watts), but it does include Roland-Stuart. Jeska, we believe is in Foston. The equalities report, is particularly well designed to hide information rather than give it. We really need to keep the pressure on NoMInWPrisons (on X) grassroots campaign group is organising lots of actions.

defrazzled · 09/08/2025 09:14

I was a victim of Jimmy Savile and they denied he was a dangerous pervert repeatedly, resulting in my banning from contacting them and being listed as a vexatious complainant in 1998. A status I hold to this day. The middle class woke bbc hates working class white people and women so much it utterly blinds them to the truth. This is the same old shit on a different flavour. They are a national disgrace.

FeegleFrenzy · 09/08/2025 05:54

@Whatthechicken is anyone challenging this do you know?

Whatthechicken · 09/08/2025 00:53

NoBinturongsHereMate · 08/08/2025 20:25

Downview is the prison with the wing specially for transwomen.

But they share facilities, the government reckon that proper risk assessments are carried out though, so all ok. This special "trans'" wing should be on the male estate. In February this year, Watts was still in Peterborough (Male Prison, there is a female prison next door, but they are completely separate)), Now he is is Downview (a female prison, separate sleeping facilities, but they do share other facilities). On May 1st 2025 (check hansard), the Ministry of Justice stated that they haven't moved any 'transgender women' into the female estate since they took office on 4th July 2024..they are now playing fast and loose with what they mean by the 'female estate'. Unless they moved Watts after May 1st 2025, they misled parliament.

'Joanna' Rowland Stuart was also moved from Lewes Prison (male prison) to Downview between 3rd June and the 24th July 2024. So either the Tories approved it during the pre-election period or the current government did when they won the election and took office on the 4th July 2024. If the current government did it, then again they have misled parliament.

The curent policy over housing males in the women's estate is unlawful. I don't believe for one minute they are going to change it. I think they will either try to pass E wing in Downview off as a separate male facility, or they will change the Equality Act.

ArabellaScott · 08/08/2025 21:09

Okay. Thank fuck for that.

Hoardasurass · 08/08/2025 20:42

ArabellaScott · 08/08/2025 19:13

'Judge Simon Hirst told Watts, who appeared at the hearing via video link from HMP Downview in Surrey, that he realised custody would be more difficult because of the former officer’s neuro-divergence, previous police career and transgender identity.
He said it was clear from evidence heard during the trial at Lincoln Crown Court that Watts, of St Helen’s Avenue, Lincoln, had an “obsession with weapons”.
Watts also has previous convictions for making an explosive substance and possessing illegal weapons, which meant the ex-PCSO was prohibited from owning any weapons at the time of arrest.
The judge said: “You told the jury you had searched the internet for bullets. You had a truly troubling internet search history, including those who had killed and notorious murderers.”'

Please tell me he's not in a women's prison? Does.Downview hold men?

If i remember correctly its a woman's and juvenile jail that has a trans wing because they couldn't put it in a mens prison ofcourse

NoBinturongsHereMate · 08/08/2025 20:25

Downview is the prison with the wing specially for transwomen.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 08/08/2025 20:17

He's evidently one of the fragrant "special exceptions" that the trans captured civil servants in the MoJ, prison service etc are so desperate to inflict on women in prison.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/08/2025 20:12

Why is Watts, a man who filmed himself putting prominent “terf” faces on watermelons and smashing them, in a female prison?

ArabellaScott · 08/08/2025 19:13

'Judge Simon Hirst told Watts, who appeared at the hearing via video link from HMP Downview in Surrey, that he realised custody would be more difficult because of the former officer’s neuro-divergence, previous police career and transgender identity.
He said it was clear from evidence heard during the trial at Lincoln Crown Court that Watts, of St Helen’s Avenue, Lincoln, had an “obsession with weapons”.
Watts also has previous convictions for making an explosive substance and possessing illegal weapons, which meant the ex-PCSO was prohibited from owning any weapons at the time of arrest.
The judge said: “You told the jury you had searched the internet for bullets. You had a truly troubling internet search history, including those who had killed and notorious murderers.”'

Please tell me he's not in a women's prison? Does.Downview hold men?

Hoardasurass · 08/08/2025 16:53

PronounssheRa · 08/08/2025 14:43

Im fairly sure watts is in the men's wing of HMP Peterborough

There is a ridiculous justice for zoe campaign which has mentioned this before and prick news reported that it was so unfair that watts wasn't housed with female prisoners.

The gun watts attempted to create was semi automatic and capable of creating a mass casualty event. I don't think they will ever be truly safe.

Some of us remember the videos he made of him smashing watermelons that had pictures of prominent gc women on them with a barbed wire wrapped baseball bat.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 08/08/2025 16:43

Archive link for Telegraph article:

archive.ph/UNR8N

MrsOvertonsWindow · 08/08/2025 16:42

According to the Telegraph, Watts is in Downview which is a prison and young offenders institution for women!!!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/08/former-pcso-troubling-search-history-3d-gun-fidget-toy/

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