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Sam Harris

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MotherEarthisaTerf · 11/11/2024 17:54

Wow! Sam Harris’ latest podcast called The Reckoning.

Right out of the gate, only a few minutes in he is blaming the Democrat defeat at the doors of those who swallowed the TRA movement and pushed it repeatedly.

I was going to quote it but he’s talking about it for so long (women’s sports, social conditioning etc)

it’s worth a listen. He’s considered to be neutral, intelligent, left leaning and very well respected

www.samharris.org/podcasts/making-sense-episodes/391-the-reckoning

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redalex261 · 12/11/2024 01:48

The wheels are definitely coming right off the TWAW bandwagon in US mainstream media since Kamala Harris’ defeat. Every channel MSNBC, CNN, ABC (of course FOX) have covered and partially blamed the impact of pro-trans policies on the outcome - outbursts all around in the blame game. During the campaign the Republicans ran TV ads in all 7 swing states constantly (especially during football games🤪) with the catchy line “Kamala Harris is for they/them, Donald Trump is for you” - political genius. They had also dredged up an interview where KM was animatedly explaining how she pushed through a law when she was Attorney General in California forcing the state to pay for gender reassignment surgeries requested by transgender prisoners.

Suddenly all the political commentators are condemning this and bio males in women's sports, schools socially transitioning children etc. etc.

Watching the commentaries has been hilarious - all picking their words VERY carefully; but is like seeing a cork coming out of a bottle, they are becoming a tiny bit more daring each time they hear others expressing criticism of trans rights infringing women’s rights and managing to not be immediately cancelled.

LoobiJee · 11/11/2024 22:24

biscuitandcake · 11/11/2024 19:36

I think there are going to be many cases of men pondorously explaining that actually it turns out there is an issue with trans ideology and that the rest of the left need to really listen to the critics. While the women who Have been trying to raise this as an issue for ages try not to explode in frustration. Ah well, the main point is at list the tide is turning. Expect also a lot of "why were none of the women talking about this" and left wing men discussing the issue with right wing men. Hands across the aisle and all.

We need to get that Victoria Smith article on standby, ready to link to it every time one of these Johnny come lately chin strokers tries to pull that “but why didn’t they say?” schtick.

ChaChaChooey · 11/11/2024 19:53

Sam Harris’ response to the Witch Trials of JK Rowling definitely came across as a bit terfy, not surprised he’s come back to the topic again.

Can’t figure out how old his kids are from a cursory google but he’s been married 20 years so potentially has children of an age that they/their peers experienced/witnessed the high point of the ROGD graph.

Bet he has oodles of media acquaintances with gender-y kids too.

Catsmere · 11/11/2024 19:52

Is this the same Sam Harris who said in 2006 "If I could wave a magic wand and get rid of either religion or rape, I would not hesitate to choose religion"? I'd love to think he'd improved since then.

ArabellaScott · 11/11/2024 19:38

I think he said they were being pushed into a new cult, and encouraged to seek mastectomies because of things they'd seen on Tiktok. I thought it was quite clear!

duc748 · 11/11/2024 19:37

Didn't he rather just leave that hanging as a soundbite,@ArabellaScott , where I thought he could have done a bit more dot-joining?

biscuitandcake · 11/11/2024 19:36

I think there are going to be many cases of men pondorously explaining that actually it turns out there is an issue with trans ideology and that the rest of the left need to really listen to the critics. While the women who Have been trying to raise this as an issue for ages try not to explode in frustration. Ah well, the main point is at list the tide is turning. Expect also a lot of "why were none of the women talking about this" and left wing men discussing the issue with right wing men. Hands across the aisle and all.

ArabellaScott · 11/11/2024 19:34

'an epidemic of teenage girls wanting double mastectomies'

duc748 · 11/11/2024 19:31

I did seem to me a bit that he spent the first half of the podcast saying, no wonder Trump won, because the Dems are so shit, because of this, this, and this. And the second half saying, why oh why did people vote for Trump: the man is a monster.

GeorgeOrwellsTurningGrave · 11/11/2024 19:30

ArabellaScott · 11/11/2024 19:24

What is TDS, please?

Trump Derangement Syndrome

ArabellaScott · 11/11/2024 19:24

'Identity politics is dead and must be buried'

ArabellaScott · 11/11/2024 19:24

What is TDS, please?

TempestTost · 11/11/2024 19:16

Interesting. A lot of people think he's the textbook example of TDS.

I think he's a bit of a fake, but a lot of people take him seriously. Though I've seen that some of the Sam Harris groups on places like Reddit have turned against him a while ago, rather like Dawkins and Maher.

duc748 · 11/11/2024 19:08

"You're going to end up with President Candance Fucking Owens!" 😃

ArabellaScott · 11/11/2024 18:41

That's quite bold.

He's still pushing the idea that a four year old can be 'true trans', though.

illinivich · 11/11/2024 18:40

I was wondering how he'd cope with a trump victory.

Ingenieur · 11/11/2024 18:35

It's amazing how much courage people niw have following this small nudge of the tiller.

Great work Sam!