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Lovelyview · 11/11/2024 17:18

Another local authority - Bracknell Forest Borough Council.

'My name is Sarah Holman and I believe single sex facilities are vital for women and that you can’t change sex. I believe I have been discriminated against for having these views.'

It's on crowdjustice.

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Garlicnorth · 07/01/2025 11:20

What's an anti-trans stalking community, Chris? Are they like bird-watchers, hiding in bushes with telephoto lenses?

Christinapple · 07/01/2025 11:11

Lovelyview · 11/11/2024 17:18

Another local authority - Bracknell Forest Borough Council.

'My name is Sarah Holman and I believe single sex facilities are vital for women and that you can’t change sex. I believe I have been discriminated against for having these views.'

It's on crowdjustice.

But was she "discriminated against" for the views per se, or was she harassing people non-stop over it and using hateful language etc? Is she a member of an anti-trans stalking community? The way one expresses their views matters.

CarefulN0w · 07/01/2025 10:48

Thanks for the update - I had missed this until now, but am happy to garden in support.

I am looking forward to the day when this is all unnecessary and organisations stop pretending humans can change sex.

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 07/01/2025 10:06

Keep going Sarah. It's terrible you have to go through all this stress for basic human rights for women but it's where we are, unfortunately, and so important. Women's equal human rights can be lost so quickly as we can see from Afghanistan.

You've been treated so shoddily by the Council - if I was a council tax payer there I'd be so angry.

Ramblingnamechanger · 07/01/2025 00:20

Sorry I missed this but will support the fundraising. What I don’t see is how the LA talks about toilets as being equivalent to lifts, then men of whatever gender should have no problem in single sex toilets for men. Best of luck .you have a great barrister. But women should not have to go through this. We must all complain, every time. Solidarity, sisters.

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 06/01/2025 23:50

@Sartay - well done!

Enough4me · 06/01/2025 23:27

Bump and good luck 🍀

Fordian · 06/01/2025 23:02

Thanks for the update!

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/01/2025 22:39

Thanks for the update. Good luck with all this.

hockeysticks89 · 06/01/2025 18:55

Thank you for updating us, and for pursuing our his important case

Sartay · 06/01/2025 18:33

Hello, it’s Sarah Holman. I wanted to give an update on the case. I have received the rebuttal docs from Bracknell Forest Council and unsurprisingly they refute all the allegations. The justification of their action is 23 pages of frankly waffle in my opinion. I feel the case is a strong one.

There will be a wait now to get a preliminary hearing scheduled. Will update more once things get going. Thank you for discussing it on here I feel heartened when I read your support of women’s rights.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 28/11/2024 23:20

Thanks for highlighting

UtopiaPlanitia · 28/11/2024 21:56

SwissBall · 28/11/2024 10:45

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14134225/harrowing-experiences-gender-neutral-toilets-quit-council-job.html

Just updating with another piece in the Mail. It’s Mail+ but if you’re on an Apple device you can click the AA button > Show Reader to read it.

That’s a great article, thanks for posting it. The details of how she was treated are really terrible behaviour on the part of the Council’s HR and management staff.

Archived version of the article for those who can’t access it:

https://archive.is/lhHyz

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 28/11/2024 10:51

Christinapple · 17/11/2024 23:03

Aren't crowdfunders against the terms of conditions?

Thanks for the reminder @Christinapple Will donate now.

PoppySeedBagelRedux · 20/11/2024 08:12

Thanks to the reposes to Cristina, I've seen this thread, so have contributed. So helpful of her.

HumphreyCushionintheHouse · 20/11/2024 03:12

Christinapple · 17/11/2024 23:03

Aren't crowdfunders against the terms of conditions?

Doing some research now to contribute to gardening. Thanks for the reminder.

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 19/11/2024 13:58

Women talking to and supporting each other is against the Taliban T & Cs for sure. Fortunately not so here.

larklane17 · 19/11/2024 12:20

I want to frame that post of yours @RethinkingLife and hang it on my wall, for truly 'tis a work of art.

RethinkingLife · 19/11/2024 11:55

dunBle · 18/11/2024 19:24

We're not allowed to link to them but no-one says we can't discuss them

Did the staff member who did occasionally arc in that direction move on to greater things and more authoritarian regimes?

In the Age of Substantial and Often Unexpected Moderation, iirc, that member actually indicated that moderators would consider acting against the mention of carrots, seeds, and gardening.

I'm always disappointed when people drag out the lift/your own bathroom examples. However, constant vigilance etc. because the success of the Denton playbook and the (ab) use of Lifton's 8 Criteria for Thought Reform has been remarkable and the pernicious impact will persist for a very long time..

wincarwoo · 18/11/2024 22:21

Thank goodness we have a thread monitor to keep us in check.

Cheers Christina seems your input isn't having the impact you hoped.

WinterCrow · 18/11/2024 22:04

dunBle · 18/11/2024 19:24

We're not allowed to link to them but no-one says we can't discuss them

But you have to know your place, dunBle.

dunBle · 18/11/2024 19:24

We're not allowed to link to them but no-one says we can't discuss them

WinterCrow · 18/11/2024 19:00

Christinapple · 17/11/2024 23:03

Aren't crowdfunders against the terms of conditions?

Thanks for reminding me to chip in again to the next big push.

borntobequiet · 18/11/2024 07:38

Christinapple · 17/11/2024 23:03

Aren't crowdfunders against the terms of conditions?

Reminds me that I wasn’t able to donate before, and need to do so. Thanks.