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IwantToRetire · 06/11/2024 01:26

Kamala Harris 27
45.2% popular vote
12,768,875 votes

Donald Trump 99
53.8% popular vote
15,275,564 votes

270 to win

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6/11/2024 @ 01:25 GMT

U.S. election results 2024

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Dinososaurus · 06/11/2024 08:44

Starlight7080 · 06/11/2024 08:17

But for woman and girls health it's bloody awful .

Why?

Women who want abortions can live in a state that allows them.

SadSadGirl · 06/11/2024 08:43

"Riley Gaines came out for Trump on issues such as this - and was an excellent spokeswoman and campaigner for women and girls rights."

I was actually hoping Harvey Weinstein would run because he'd be a great choice for women and girls due to him probably being anti-trans.

Dinososaurus · 06/11/2024 08:41

Theeyeballsinthesky · 06/11/2024 08:10

It is, it must be unbelievably scary to be a young woman in America atm where young men are so angry, want a return to ‘traditional values’ ie women back in the kitchen and have that special American bonus of incredibly easy access to guns

id be getting the hell out

You're being hyperbolic, lots of young women want to be homemakers. You're just repeating the head girls snobbish 'domesticated zombies' mantra.

midgetastic · 06/11/2024 08:38

A feminist view never means that a woman ONLY has the choice of a home based life

That isn't what feminism means

Feminism means removal of gendered restraints. Removal of Societal limits on female lives.

Gender ideology thrives in a strongly gender restrictive society - the more the right make such a society the more gender ecspaing becomes needed .

And anyone who thinks that a climate change denier will help their family - anyone who has children in a world that is more likely be 4 degrees warmer in that child lifetime as a result of the trump vote ... sorry I don't understand that at all

Shortshriftandlethal · 06/11/2024 08:30

SnakesAndArrows · 06/11/2024 08:19

I am asking, and listening. Can you tell me what makes a feminist lend her vote to someone like Trump?

I'm not American, but i imagine there were numerous reasons. The word 'feminist' as you are using it seems to imply that women's issues and perspectives must all be viewed through progressive/left wing lens - but they are not. Some women might actually think women's needs, and certainly women with children, are best met within a strong family network.

I imagine many women feel the economy and their family finances are the most important issue; and many will have been concerned not just with that but with ideological capture in schools around gender identity, around boys in girls sports and so on. Riley Gaines came out for Trump on issues such as this - and was an excellent spokeswoman and campaigner for women and girls rights.

I imagine many felt alienated by the progressive west coast liberalism espoused by Kamala Harris - even if she, and they, also believe in a woman's right to choose. Antifa, rioting in Portland, Defund the Police...stuff like that. illegal migration, of course...as is the same across Europe

Behind Trump is the Republican Party......and even should Trump stand back they will still represent those women on those sorts of issues. I see that the Republicans won back the senate - which means people were also voting for Republican candidates, as well as for Trump.

Maaate · 06/11/2024 08:26

SnakesAndArrows · 06/11/2024 08:25

Yeah, still not hearing why.

You need to ask a feminist who voted for Trump I guess 🤷🏼‍♀️

SnakesAndArrows · 06/11/2024 08:25

Maaate · 06/11/2024 08:23

That's the question that democrats and other "progressives" need to ponder.

But I guess it's a lot easier just to put it down to people being thick and bigoted than actually listen to what is being said.

Yeah, still not hearing why.

Hoardasurass · 06/11/2024 08:24

jwnib · 06/11/2024 08:01

@Hoardasurass do you know if is there an explanation as to why democrats haven't done anything to improve abortion rights this term? Are their hands tied with the Supreme Court being essentially republican atm? Or is it the age old too political to touch?

To guarantee abortion rights an amendment would need to be made to the constitution, to do this a bill would need to make it through both the senat and the house of Congress and I doubt that the Biden administration had the votes. However they didn't even try to win over republican reps because they (the Democrats) would need to use political capital to win them over for this 1 vote and it was deemed not worthy of such effort, especially when they can still use it as a threat against women to coerces their vote

Snowypeaks · 06/11/2024 08:24

NotBadConsidering · 06/11/2024 08:11

The thing to remember about abortion is there are millions of Americans, including millions of women, and billions around the world, who think abortion is a bad thing.

Yes.
Difference over here though is that most of the anti abortionists 1) are not anti in any circumstances 2) regard the abortion question as a matter of personal conscience.
IMO, anyway.

Maaate · 06/11/2024 08:23

SnakesAndArrows · 06/11/2024 08:06

How can any feminist vote for a misogynist rapist whose Supreme Court puppets overturned Roe vs Wade?

I realise that some FWR posters are actually not feminists and are only here for the sex realism, but still.

That's the question that democrats and other "progressives" need to ponder.

But I guess it's a lot easier just to put it down to people being thick and bigoted than actually listen to what is being said.

SnakesAndArrows · 06/11/2024 08:19

Shortshriftandlethal · 06/11/2024 08:11

Perhaps you should ask them....and listen to what they say....because the issues that people were voting on will remain issues even should Trump have to step back in a couple of years.

I am asking, and listening. Can you tell me what makes a feminist lend her vote to someone like Trump?

Starlight7080 · 06/11/2024 08:17

Dinososaurus · 06/11/2024 06:41

How is it bad? It's a fantastic result for the protection of women and girls from gender ideology.

But for woman and girls health it's bloody awful .

SadSadGirl · 06/11/2024 08:13

Dinososaurus · 06/11/2024 06:41

How is it bad? It's a fantastic result for the protection of women and girls from gender ideology.

Yeah, gotta be a positive for the protection of women and girls when the American president brags about sexually assaulting them.

Trump has his own "gender ideology" which is actually very similar to the trans ideology. Women should look and act a certain way. We exist to be pretty and stupid. That's why radical feminism exists, because of people like him, not because of trans people! He is the original enemy of women. Should we be grateful for your average misogynist just because he's also a transphobe? The reasons he's a transphobe are not intellectual or feminist. We don't have to support actual transphobes just because they acknowledge the biological differences between the sexes. We're not transphobes; we're feminists!

devildeepbluesea · 06/11/2024 08:12

Dinososaurus · 06/11/2024 06:41

How is it bad? It's a fantastic result for the protection of women and girls from gender ideology.

Not so much from rapists

Shortshriftandlethal · 06/11/2024 08:11

SnakesAndArrows · 06/11/2024 08:06

How can any feminist vote for a misogynist rapist whose Supreme Court puppets overturned Roe vs Wade?

I realise that some FWR posters are actually not feminists and are only here for the sex realism, but still.

Perhaps you should ask them....and listen to what they say....because the issues that people were voting on will remain issues even should Trump have to step back in a couple of years.

NotBadConsidering · 06/11/2024 08:11

The thing to remember about abortion is there are millions of Americans, including millions of women, and billions around the world, who think abortion is a bad thing.

RedToothBrush · 06/11/2024 08:10

jwnib · 06/11/2024 08:09

This ISN'T a good day for women's rights. As much as I want the trans militancy to stop.

It'll make it worse I think, sure they might not get any laws, but it'll cause deeper divisions, louder voices, and (even more) self righteousness. I think it'll make liberal commentators in the UK more militant too, the fact Trump won't support trans rights just solidifies the belief trans rights are something to fight for.

Well if Trump does allow another election, this would be a good way to lose it.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 06/11/2024 08:10

RedToothBrush · 06/11/2024 08:06

This is really really scary.

Everyone here knows my thoughts on the gender bollocks and how much I thought it was dangerous. This isn't unexpected for that reason.

Trans ideology was the result of hatred for women and it's a mens rights movement.

And Trump harnesses incel sentiment.

It's very worrying indeed.

This ISN'T a good day for women's rights. As much as I want the trans militancy to stop.

It is, it must be unbelievably scary to be a young woman in America atm where young men are so angry, want a return to ‘traditional values’ ie women back in the kitchen and have that special American bonus of incredibly easy access to guns

id be getting the hell out

jwnib · 06/11/2024 08:09

This ISN'T a good day for women's rights. As much as I want the trans militancy to stop.

It'll make it worse I think, sure they might not get any laws, but it'll cause deeper divisions, louder voices, and (even more) self righteousness. I think it'll make liberal commentators in the UK more militant too, the fact Trump won't support trans rights just solidifies the belief trans rights are something to fight for.

SnakesAndArrows · 06/11/2024 08:06

How can any feminist vote for a misogynist rapist whose Supreme Court puppets overturned Roe vs Wade?

I realise that some FWR posters are actually not feminists and are only here for the sex realism, but still.

RedToothBrush · 06/11/2024 08:06

Theeyeballsinthesky · 06/11/2024 07:57

Hannah Barnes recently posted this. Young American men seem full of rage and they blame women & immigrants for whatever it is in their life they think they don’t have

This is really really scary.

Everyone here knows my thoughts on the gender bollocks and how much I thought it was dangerous. This isn't unexpected for that reason.

Trans ideology was the result of hatred for women and it's a mens rights movement.

And Trump harnesses incel sentiment.

It's very worrying indeed.

This ISN'T a good day for women's rights. As much as I want the trans militancy to stop.

jwnib · 06/11/2024 08:01

@Hoardasurass do you know if is there an explanation as to why democrats haven't done anything to improve abortion rights this term? Are their hands tied with the Supreme Court being essentially republican atm? Or is it the age old too political to touch?

Sausagenbacon · 06/11/2024 07:59

Trump is a terrible person but we had all this apocalyptic nonsense the last time he was elected.
Does anyone remember the brilliant Jonathan Pie podcast from then? Unfortunately I can't find it, otherwise I'd post it.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 06/11/2024 07:57

DancingTurtle · 06/11/2024 07:47

I am gender critical and pro-women's rights. I believe that the Trump election is terrifying for women and trans-identifying people alike.

Hannah Barnes recently posted this. Young American men seem full of rage and they blame women & immigrants for whatever it is in their life they think they don’t have

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DancingTurtle · 06/11/2024 07:47

I am gender critical and pro-women's rights. I believe that the Trump election is terrifying for women and trans-identifying people alike.

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