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CassieMaddox · 10/09/2024 16:56

TorghunKhan · 10/09/2024 16:54

This is full of absolute garbage.

it's objectively good because whilst humanity remains a single planet species the likelihood we are made, or make ourselves extinct is quite high.

The resources required to build and fly rockets is nothing compared to, for example eating meat, burning wood or even selling coke in plastic bottles.

Having cheap space flight enables a staggering amount of human advancement that you just don't get any other way.

Minerals, research, zero G production lines - a huge amount.

I really am not sure you know what you are talking about Confused

Anyway, if you'll excuse me I'll talk to the low T folk as they are more on my wavelength

TorghunKhan · 10/09/2024 16:55

CassieMaddox · 10/09/2024 16:51

So anyone who managed to get their hands on a Tesla 6 years ago and is still running it can charge it for free

The rest of the late adopter plebs can pay. If they can afford a Tesla.

Yes they are all driving their Teslas for free.

As for the new ones - a Model 3, the best selling UK car about 3 years running, costs £35k as a base model. For a car that drives itself, costs a tenth of a petrol car to drive, is one of the safest cars ever built, for occupants and pedestrians - and literally anticipates accidents, and actively avoids them and stops the car. It's a staggering achievement for absolutely bugger all

CassieMaddox · 10/09/2024 16:54

TorghunKhan · 10/09/2024 16:51

I don't think women would have ever built the Apollo rocket - the single greatest achievement of humanity.

Equally I don't think women would have built the atomic bomb, the single worst achievement.

Ah well.

Is now a good time to suggest you watch the film hidden figures?

TorghunKhan · 10/09/2024 16:54

CassieMaddox · 10/09/2024 14:29

"Cheaper flights to space is objectively good"

What's your definition of "good"?

I'd argue the scarce natural resources required to build and power a rocket, and the unproven benefits of going to space and the associated pollution/risks means "cheaper flights to space is bad".

You don't make something "objectively good" just by using the words. You need to define and qualify it.

This is full of absolute garbage.

it's objectively good because whilst humanity remains a single planet species the likelihood we are made, or make ourselves extinct is quite high.

The resources required to build and fly rockets is nothing compared to, for example eating meat, burning wood or even selling coke in plastic bottles.

Having cheap space flight enables a staggering amount of human advancement that you just don't get any other way.

Minerals, research, zero G production lines - a huge amount.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 10/09/2024 16:52

Sorry, haven't rtft, so apologies if it's been offered already:

Elon Musk is a poo-head. And a doofus.

Yeah, I said it.

CassieMaddox · 10/09/2024 16:51

So anyone who managed to get their hands on a Tesla 6 years ago and is still running it can charge it for free

The rest of the late adopter plebs can pay. If they can afford a Tesla.

TorghunKhan · 10/09/2024 16:51

casapenguin · 10/09/2024 16:30

Maybe it’s my low- t that blinds me to the benefits of colonising mars. Sad to be a woman ☹️

I don't think women would have ever built the Apollo rocket - the single greatest achievement of humanity.

Equally I don't think women would have built the atomic bomb, the single worst achievement.

Ah well.

alittleprivacy · 10/09/2024 16:51

CassieMaddox · 10/09/2024 14:29

"Cheaper flights to space is objectively good"

What's your definition of "good"?

I'd argue the scarce natural resources required to build and power a rocket, and the unproven benefits of going to space and the associated pollution/risks means "cheaper flights to space is bad".

You don't make something "objectively good" just by using the words. You need to define and qualify it.

Not really, the asteroid belt is incredibly rich with untapped resources that will utterly change all life on earth once we can viabily mine them. I know a couple of scientists that work in this field and honestly, it should be a bigger priority.

TorghunKhan · 10/09/2024 16:49

SerendipityJane · 10/09/2024 16:45

You can be a Nobel prize winner and a twat. The two are not mutually exclusive. same as enormous wealth and incredible generosity.

He IS a twat.

Still changed the world for the better.

Note you don't seem to have anything to say about the free electricity BTW?

CassieMaddox · 10/09/2024 16:49

casapenguin · 10/09/2024 16:30

Maybe it’s my low- t that blinds me to the benefits of colonising mars. Sad to be a woman ☹️

😂

TorghunKhan · 10/09/2024 16:49

CassieMaddox · 10/09/2024 16:47

Maybe I misread this
,Weird how building out the infrastructure for electric cars, at staggering charging rates (still generally unbeaten by anyone else), and FOR FREE is EXACTLY how Tesla took over and changed the world. Confused

My own miss quoting, forgive me. I should have said "took over the lead of the car industry, and changed the world"

CassieMaddox · 10/09/2024 16:47

TorghunKhan · 10/09/2024 15:01

Tesla are not and never will "take over the world".

What Tesla did do was change the car industry, permanently, for the better, over the space of about 6 years. Which is revolutionary in anyones book, world changing when it comes to getting rid of internal combustion engines.

Maybe I misread this
,Weird how building out the infrastructure for electric cars, at staggering charging rates (still generally unbeaten by anyone else), and FOR FREE is EXACTLY how Tesla took over and changed the world. Confused

SerendipityJane · 10/09/2024 16:45

JennyBeanR · 10/09/2024 16:35

He's definitely not stupid. I find it odd that people think just because you disagree with someone, then that person is also stupid.

Saying that, I really do think he's gone down some kind of extremist rabbit hole. His messages/interviews seem to be getting worse every day.

You can be a Nobel prize winner and a twat. The two are not mutually exclusive. same as enormous wealth and incredible generosity.

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SerendipityJane · 10/09/2024 16:42

casapenguin · 10/09/2024 16:30

Maybe it’s my low- t that blinds me to the benefits of colonising mars. Sad to be a woman ☹️

As an expanding species which won't stop until nature steps in, it's rather in our interests to move off earth.

That said, I don't think his Muskness is the man to do it. While you are waiting for your Tesla to charge, you will have plenty of time to start writing down the reasons why.

I grew up in the 70s, when nuclear fusion was "just 10 years away". Much as it is now.

If you wanted to colonise other bodies in our solar system (because that is all you have so even then your resources whilst considerable are still finite) you really have to start with living on the moon. Not popping up for a month or two and then popping back when you can.

Living

And given the first settlers to the Americas - which at least has air, water, food and shelter - managed to perish a few times before finally establishing a foothold, I wouldn't hold my breath.

How would giving birth and growing up in 1/6th g work ? Bearing in mind anyone born on the moon (or Mars) probably could never come to earth. Mind you, who'd want to ?

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JennyBeanR · 10/09/2024 16:35

He's definitely not stupid. I find it odd that people think just because you disagree with someone, then that person is also stupid.

Saying that, I really do think he's gone down some kind of extremist rabbit hole. His messages/interviews seem to be getting worse every day.

Alwaystired94 · 10/09/2024 16:35

SerendipityJane · 10/09/2024 16:13

Well they appear to have changed someones world.

At this point i'm half expecting it to be Elon himself

casapenguin · 10/09/2024 16:30

Maybe it’s my low- t that blinds me to the benefits of colonising mars. Sad to be a woman ☹️

NotTerfNorCis · 10/09/2024 16:27

Just came here to say 'yes'.

Not because of his opinions - that's up to him. But because of his behaviour, particularly the way he treated Twitter employees and others. A massive twat, and a bell-end too.

casapenguin · 10/09/2024 16:25

TorghunKhan · 10/09/2024 16:23

Lol at the incredible short sightedness and tiny horizons some people have. If you can't see past the nearest Asda, I feel sorry for you.

👍🏻

TorghunKhan · 10/09/2024 16:23

casapenguin · 10/09/2024 16:12

lol at Tesla and SpaceX changing the world.

Lol at the incredible short sightedness and tiny horizons some people have. If you can't see past the nearest Asda, I feel sorry for you.

casapenguin · 10/09/2024 16:14

SerendipityJane · 10/09/2024 16:13

Well they appear to have changed someones world.

😂

SerendipityJane · 10/09/2024 16:13

casapenguin · 10/09/2024 16:12

lol at Tesla and SpaceX changing the world.

Well they appear to have changed someones world.

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casapenguin · 10/09/2024 16:12

lol at Tesla and SpaceX changing the world.

TorghunKhan · 10/09/2024 15:57

SerendipityJane · 10/09/2024 15:52

Free electricity ? No one told me.

People have not told you loads of things. They’re still true.

all pre 2017 Teslas charge for free, for ever, unlimited times in the large, very high speed, high reliability worldwide network they built.

that’s why they changed the car industry permanently and for the better.

SerendipityJane · 10/09/2024 15:52

TorghunKhan · 10/09/2024 15:49

Well. They are across the whole world. And they are free. (Pre 2017 cars). Quite why you think you have a gotcha here I don’t know.

tesla forced the car industry forward by 25-30 years, in the space of 5 years. Fact.

Free electricity ? No one told me.

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