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TempestTost · 08/09/2024 23:26

Imean, as far as a public leader, I would not want Musk to be kind of sole dictator. But I think I'd prefer him as an MP or in that kind of role - where there are other people working together - over a lot of people actually doing it. I think he'd at least ask good questions and have some ideas that were really different from the same old approaches.

UtopiaPlanitia · 08/09/2024 23:17

biscuitandcake · 08/09/2024 08:49

But its relevant, because the whole point of the post he found "interesting" is that people like him - neurodiverse "high status" males are better suited to making decisions than everyone else. If you are setting yourself and other men like you up as natural leaders, you open your character and leadership qualities (or lack thereof) for public discussion.

A lot of wealthy business people and high status academics seem convinced that they are more capable of running the world properly and that the plebs having a vote is a waste of time.

Doing well in one sphere of life, particularly one in which success insulates you from dealing with everyday peoples' problems, will give you an inflated idea of your own ability and competence. Musk is no different to a lot of this type of people.

unwashedanddazed · 08/09/2024 23:03

I don't get all the hate for him. I really like him.

I like how he's unafraid to tell powerful people to fuck off if he thinks they're behaving badly. I like that he wants to get us to mars. I like that he reinstated the accounts of people who have been silenced on Twitter, even the people I don't agree with. I don't agree with everything he says, but I don't completely agree with many people. It's ok to hold different ideas from others, it doesn't automatically make them twats.

TheCultureHusks · 08/09/2024 22:41

Money can’t buy brain cells.

TempestTost · 08/09/2024 22:40

I don't think Musk is stupid, but like most people he has a lot more smarts about some things than others.

As far as women speaking or thinking freely. I do think that women are overall more risk adverse than men - maybe significantly so. I think there are a lot of solid biological reasons for that.

I've wondered if it means women are somewhat less likely to pursue risky ideas, or socially unpopular ideas.

EasySkankin · 08/09/2024 22:01

I like him. He is so unguarded- it’s an antidote to all the carefully staged personas people have in the social media age.

Happyher · 08/09/2024 15:32

Goatblu · 07/09/2024 17:43

I haven't even read your link but saw the thread title and wanted to say, yes, he is.

Same here 😀

Happyher · 08/09/2024 15:31

Yes he’s a twat. I also think he’s very immature.

biscuitandcake · 08/09/2024 15:25

SerendipityJane · 08/09/2024 10:23

He's also quite receptive to the idea that democracy is a dud and what we really need are men (natch) like him to run our lives.

Love the trend for American "thinkers" at the moment to talk themselves into reinventing the monarchy. Like what was the whole point of the last 250 years? Do the Bri'ish get an apology?

CyclingSam · 08/09/2024 13:45

I don't pay much attention to what Musk says, I respect what he's done: made free speech popular again, and angered those (politicians and certain activists come to mind) who have reason to keep people afraid to exercise it. It's a shame some have found themselves in a toxic algorithmic hell, but that's not my experience.

MarieDeGournay · 08/09/2024 13:37

Jjiillkkf · 08/09/2024 11:45

Hate him all you like, we're fundamentally at his mercy and owe him something for changing the moderation principles on Twitter.

I'm not 'fundamentally at his mercy because' I have never engaged with Twitter or X because I could see what it was and where it was heading from the beginning.
I don't hate Elon Musk, I just don't engage with his empire.

Jjiillkkf · 08/09/2024 11:45

Hate him all you like, we're fundamentally at his mercy and owe him something for changing the moderation principles on Twitter.

SerendipityJane · 08/09/2024 10:23

biscuitandcake · 08/09/2024 08:49

But its relevant, because the whole point of the post he found "interesting" is that people like him - neurodiverse "high status" males are better suited to making decisions than everyone else. If you are setting yourself and other men like you up as natural leaders, you open your character and leadership qualities (or lack thereof) for public discussion.

He's also quite receptive to the idea that democracy is a dud and what we really need are men (natch) like him to run our lives.

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biscuitandcake · 08/09/2024 08:49

YankSplaining · 08/09/2024 02:27

I hate how Elon Musk threads always move away from “I think Elon Musk is wrong” and into making judgments on his intelligence, personality, or other personal things about him. Yes, he’s very intelligent. He’s also autistic, hence the lack of nuance and lack of giving a damn about whether something is socially acceptable to say.

But its relevant, because the whole point of the post he found "interesting" is that people like him - neurodiverse "high status" males are better suited to making decisions than everyone else. If you are setting yourself and other men like you up as natural leaders, you open your character and leadership qualities (or lack thereof) for public discussion.

YankSplaining · 08/09/2024 02:27

I hate how Elon Musk threads always move away from “I think Elon Musk is wrong” and into making judgments on his intelligence, personality, or other personal things about him. Yes, he’s very intelligent. He’s also autistic, hence the lack of nuance and lack of giving a damn about whether something is socially acceptable to say.

SinnerBoy · 08/09/2024 01:33

Elon Musk is a Twat

In other news, the sun rises in the East.

biscuitandcake · 08/09/2024 00:23

I think, as far as evolutionary biology goes, the "natural" leaders are post menopausal women like with Killer Whales
Or we could just... Stick with democracy?

biscuitandcake · 08/09/2024 00:21

It's weird how he has gone on about Dune being a really good book, but a really big thing in that book referenced in every chapter, is the importance of self control and not just acting on blind, random impulses.

Maybe powerful people should have to do an alternative version of the Gom Jabber but instead of a box of pain they just have to sit in a room with nothing to interest them for a few hours without posting something idiotic on Twitter. I predict very few of the "high status" males would survive.

twohotwaterbottles · 07/09/2024 19:47

As per the thread title, he is indeed a twat of the first order. He's ruined Twitter for one. It's a toxic, evil place now.

autumnreset · 07/09/2024 19:36

Ok, I have questions.

Did he basically just say 'interesting observation' and the meme/ the actual statement wasn't something he himself said or further commented on?

Is he publicly known to be using an illegal drug called ketamine, (and isn't that the one that can cause severe incontinence issues)? Do you not get in trouble with the law about being public with that (you clearly have connections with a drug supplier)?

My T is low but also I have some brain fog, possibly as a symptom of peri menopause.

GeorgeO · 07/09/2024 19:21

Elon’s answer to the Thai cave situation was to call a rescuer a ‘pedo guy’ when the rescue team dismissed Elon’s prototype minisub, which was untested and too rigid to go through the tunnels.

Elon makes impulsive decisions and has no time for reflection. Evaluation and refinement brings better results long term.

I know of no better decision makers than mothers. They have to multitask, teach, nurture, sustain and protect their offspring by constant decision making.

And whenever there’s an emergency, show me the mother who says ‘oh no, I don’t know what to do - I need a manly man to tell me!!!’

SerendipityJane · 07/09/2024 19:07

This is bollocks. That's like saying anything online can be safely ignored.

No it's not. You can tell, because the words are different.

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Tooting33 · 07/09/2024 18:41

In fact Twitter is in itself a great time saver. If it's on Twitter, it can be safely ignored.

This is bollocks. That's like saying anything online can be safely ignored.

Back to the initial tweet of Elon's putting "interesting idea" below some dubious claim is barely worthy of comment.

ErrolTheDragon · 07/09/2024 18:31

OvaHere · 07/09/2024 18:29

Maybe high T makes you say stuff when it would have been better to say nothing. Plenty of evidence for that. 😂

Poor lad, so hormonal...all the time.😂

OvaHere · 07/09/2024 18:29

Maybe high T makes you say stuff when it would have been better to say nothing. Plenty of evidence for that. 😂