Premiere of Trans Widows Film on Friday 30th Aug

I watched it earlier, definitely eye opening & seriously well done. It's long overdue that these women had the opportunity to speak & be heard. And how unsurprising interesting that decades ago, women were expected to be the human shield for society to keep these men in check & stop them 'escalating' & becoming society's problem instead of the wives/partners/children's problem to grapple with.

It's all the more shocking to realise how these women have been treated since the damn burst, and it proliferated. Canaries in the coal mine, ignored & smeared, and then vilified for not just keeping these men 'contained' & 'happy' while they lost their own sense of themselves as worthy of consideration in an often, if not always, abusive setting.

Well done to everyone who worked hard on this, especially Vaishnavi Sundar, but also our own tinsel who has endured through many years of being dismissed or undermined, to keep that lifeline for women open & accessible.

Really looking forward to watching this. Thanks so much.

This video is going to be so useful in arguments with TRA handmaidens who claim to be all for the most vulnerable. I think I'm just going to refuse to engage until they've seen the film. If they won't watch it, it just shows how fake their social activism and moral righteousness is.

God that image! Wish I could unsee that, although I think important that sort of thing is included (and thank goddess it was pixelated). This is all the stuff swept under the carpet by the media narrative and 'be kind'.

Next time someone tells me to 'be kind' I'm going to find out what point that image is in the video and tell them to have a look and think about what 'being kind' is enabling. Then, after they've done that watch the rest of the video and come and tell me afterwards if they think propping up AGPs is 'being kind' to transwidows and children of transitioners.

I saw half last night and it blew me away.

I agree with PP that the animations brought a huge amount to the film. The details really brought home how this is happening to women everywhere.

So many women, and horribly, so many things in common through this type of abuse.

Did anyone else note how many of the women were educators/ teachers?

Hearing about her woman behind Children of transitioners speak was also harrowing but so important and the children are so often forgotten.

Derrick Jenson is of the Deep Green Alliance and has also written a lot about how the concept of men being women is an abuse of women, and he draws parallels with some of the work of Lundy Bancroft and also abuse of the planet / ecology. This is their (DGA's) reasoning for being gender critical, alongside queer theory links to pedophilia. Obviously the Green Party doesn't like them.

The delightful image of a bloke using a breast pump that I stumbled across one evening on Twitter, and sent on to Tish/ Genevieve made its way in I see 🤢

Yes if I’m somewhere busy I usually put the captions on but I was totally on my own watching this and felt I wouldn’t need them. I appreciate this is the 1st showing and it’s going to have many differently captioned versions going forward. Wasn’t having a dig, just wondered if it was a glitch that could be fixed at this early stage. I’m going to go back and fast forward to those contributors who spoke in their own languages so I don’t miss what they had to contribute. I felt very moved by this film and think it will help so many people understand the suffering of trans widows. I’ve always thought it was rank hypocrisy that the use of ‘dead’ naming is perfectly allowable but trans ‘widow’ is somehow deeply offensive. As with most of this, there is no logic.

And it was great to hear your voice Tinsel - it’s an amazing film 💐

I watched it yesterday. It was very effective to use montages of the famous men who identify as women, it made me realise how we all are ‘boiling frogs’, being gradually exposed to them and their ‘stunning and brave’ narratives. To see them spliced together in quick succession was like being suddenly dropped in the boiling vat of this madness.

I loved Tinsel’s pithy comments. Such powerful jolts back to what is important. Her response to being asked if she thought her husband was happier now. Its insane how transwidows are expected to care about and prioritise the selfishness of these men.

If only there was a way to force them to - they've cheered this abuse on so they should have to. Will write to mine and ask him to watch it, I suppose that's all we can do.

Also when I watched it the subtitles were already on it.

I've just watched it. That was incredibly moving. It's now had 19k views. In the comments someone said all MPs should watch it, I completely agree with that.

The young Australian woman who was speaking, I've spoken to a few times. She's had a few struggles. Culturally speaking, she's not supposed to be a single parent or divorced, so she really has had a hard time. I told her to be careful of the counsellors she looks for, because there are very few support systems in Australia.

the recent Tickle V Giggle outcome here in Australia has reinforced to many in the feminist community that we have very little power. At some point I'll write another essay on women, power and AGP men but I need to finish the last of the current degree I am studying.

I've said a couple of times that we need behavioural scientists to study women who have been abused by the TWAW system (not just their spouses) but that will take years to do.

I loved the touches like the cats & dogs in the rooms, and Vaishnavi’s eyelashes moving when women were talking to her on the screen. It gave a sense of just how much love & care went into making the film.

Emma from Children of Transitioners nearly had me in tears.

So excellent. Brilliant production values and animation. Also wonderful to hear you, Tinsel. I'm very moved by this film. I was in a violent, coercive marriage and the commonalities for the trans wives are obvious. This has moved me to tears - the women speaking is powerful and wonderful to hear. Keeping silent for such a long time and then being so brave to share their anger and pain: wow.

Congratulations to everyone involved in its production, its amazing.

That was amazing. A hard watch but amazing. Was it just me or were there no translated captions for the Japanese, Spanish or German contributors? I was frustrated not being able to understand what they were saying (sadly I can only speak English and a bit of French) Did I need to switch captions on or something? But it was a really interesting approach to take with the animation - worked really well. I hope many people get to see it.

Very good. Every day's a school day. And those were a majority of women's voices trying to shout him down 🤮

Never miss an opportunity to post this:

Thanks lovelyview, I’d never heard of him. According to that Wikipedia entry, he seems like quite the maverick, and apparently his eco activism group was denounced for saying TWANW as far back as 2012.

Thank you Arabella. I think we're all still not 100% healed 14 after years of escaping

I think what he said about being the first through the door and getting shot but he was much later going through the door but was still shot was an interesting analogy. He was describing the atmosphere in which people who tried to discuss the impact of 'trans rights' were cancelled and villified. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derrick_Jensen

Thank you will watch with interest!

It said “Writer” under his name during his interview, like it said “journalist” under Helen Joyce’s name. I didn’t understand why he was in the film.

My post didn’t say that he was one of the writers of the film. Just that I didn’t understand why he was in it.

He spoke about speaking up and presumably being cancelled but it wasn't very clear what had happened.

Tinsel i watched half of it live and had to break off halfway through so will watch the rest later today but you've all been through so much shit I can't imagine.

To all of you.