Hopefully the DM article will result in many, many more people seeing the film. I like how they used stills from the film throughout the article.

That's a good capsule summary of the voices in the film, Tinsel.

Archive version for anyone who struggles with DM log-ins and their bandwidth: https://archive.is/eZHQs

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13808461/trans-widows-heartbreak-transgender-husbands.html

Article in Daily Mail (online)

Smith is consistently a thoughtful writer who expresses ideas in such a well-crafted, readable way.

To hear these women speak is more powerful than to be told that domestic abuse survivors are viewed as guiding lights. They are not, nor should they have to be. What they need and deserve is something far more modest: to matter just as much as everyone else — even those [abusers] whom it is easier to pity because it costs you nothing at all.

The critic article is good. The women seen in the film are the strongest women, who have reached a point of being able to be filmed / recorded and to speak out against what must seem almost overwhelming odds (a captured media, political class, institutions, universities).

I wonder how many others there are out there in the same situation who have experienced too much trauma and who simply do not have the resilience - currently - to speak up. I've been thinking a lot about the unseen others since I saw the film. For the male bodied transitioners (trying to not to get deleted here) that are prominent in the media we may suspect there are very unhappy and abused women and children in their lives. Of course we're not allowed to think about or talk about that (even when it's bloody obvious if they're filmed with miserable looking family members).

I dislike the narrative - called out in the critic article - that specifically women who've suffered abuse are somehow made stronger by it. This may be true for some but definitely isn't true for others and it almost implies a 'reframe your trauma' type idea of abuse being ultimately a good thing, which obviously it just never is. Abuse is always bad, and the abuser is always bad for abusing women and children, no matter what other crap he's had to deal with in his life.

Completely agree, Red.

Well given no one seems to know and understand coercive control and there is a significant lack of training to identify it across family courts, legal courts, social workers, the police, politicians and MNHQ it's hardly the biggest surprise in the world.

No one cares about women. That's your bottom line. Women are second class service humans.

Timely article, considering the turn the thread has taken

https://thecritic.co.uk/perfect-victims-and-a-tale-of-two-films/

It's awful isn't it.
Men "win', every time.

what struck me was how the legal system is set against Mothers, trying to protect their children from an abusive male parent (with an obvious sexual fetish.) This is awful. This is a global problem affecting women of all faiths...Why do our politicians listen to AGPs but not women?

I had to watch this in bursts it was making me so so angry. What a wonderful and moving piece. Thank you to everyone involved.

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I watched it yesterday. Excellent. Extremely moving. The animation worked very well.

I know you are more than capable @TinselAngel but is there a way we can help protect your account? I miss Langcleg and I’d miss you too.

Watched it with DH last night. Well done for bringing this into the open. Despite me banging on for ages about the harm these men cause he had never fully grasped the injustice of forcing the wives to celebrate how stunning and brave their new 'wife' is whilst their own lives have been torn apart. He gets it now. It was a very moving film, and I’m glad the women were given a voice. I’m so sorry for all you have gone through.

I watched it last night, it was worth the wait.

@TinselAngel

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I've just finished watching - have many emotions! So glad it's been made.

Same, Eresh. Looking forward to it.

I've been away with family for a few days and not had a chance to watch it yet, I will be doing so asap.

It's taken me from Friday until now to finish this.

It describes the lives of some women I know so well to the point where I felt ill at the memory. (I was particularly struck by the discussion of men who discover their interest in transitioning when the woman develops a serious illness. This hit home so hard.)

Remarkable film with a profound impact that needs to be seen widely.

What @ArabellaScott said.