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Premiere of Trans Widows Film on Friday 30th Aug

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TinselAngel · 26/08/2024 18:43

Vaishnavi Sundar's long awaited documentary that was three years in the making, is having a worldwide premiere on the 30th of August, 7pm UK time.

Behind The Looking Glass is a feature-length film about the lives of women whose partners have/want to medically transition.

This is the link for the premiere:

Premiere of Trans Widows Film on Friday 30th Aug
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bathofbeans · 16/10/2024 19:51

TinselAngel · 16/10/2024 19:24

Can we not focus on a perpetrator on a thread about the victims, please?

You're right of course.

The experiences of the victims never gets heard and it's so vital to hear these experiences to get protections in place.

BonfireLady · 16/10/2024 19:28

Well, that's me told 👍

TinselAngel · 16/10/2024 19:24

Can we not focus on a perpetrator on a thread about the victims, please?

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ArabellaScott · 16/10/2024 18:38

For anyone curious, Perry's autobiography 'A portrait of the artist as a young woman' is illuminating.

The photo of him with a codpiece is quite real.

bathofbeans · 16/10/2024 18:35

If that photo is real @BonfireLady then I think a huge safeguarding error was made - when would it ever be justifiable for a man, or anyone, to wear a strap on phallus to a children's charity event?
The sound clip below of the same man talking to Kirsty Young and saying that he agrees that people feel uncomfortable around men dressed as women because they feel they have participated in something quasi-sexual that they did not consent too.
If this person admitted that they feel sexually aroused when dressed up as a woman then they fit the definition of autogynaephilic and should not be allowed anywhere near children dressed in attire that they know will sexually arouse them around children.

I'm gobsmacked that this is ongoing in this country.

BonfireLady · 16/10/2024 17:40

BonfireLady · 16/10/2024 17:27

Some men who cross dress recognise this as a cognitive dissonance / gender dysphoria and do not ever actually call themselves women. But forcing other people (and society) to pretend you are a woman is a different level of danger altogether.

Unfortunately that's no guarantee of good intent.

Obviously I'm not suggesting any intent of any kind, as nobody knows the reason for his decision - but Grayson Perry's choice of groin attire at a children's charity event is certainly eyebrow-raising:

https://x.com/Glinner/status/1779655636218941541?t=gX_ThLA8ok9nvVrkXViE8Q&s=19

Especially so when he talks in his own autobiography about making his own dresses with lots of puffed up layers, so that his excitement is hidden. He wears these dresses on primary school visits too. He's quite open about it all.

Here he is at a school with Princess Kate:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2911257/amp/Every-inch-yummy-mummy-Duchess-Cambridge-pretty-navy-meets-arty-children-Grayson-Perry.html

I was too late for the edit button..

But just to add clarity: Grayson Perry doesn't have gender dysphoria but he does "cross dress" and doesn't call himself a woman. He positions "Clare" as a character/alter ego, with him being a man dressed in the way that he does.

BonfireLady · 16/10/2024 17:27

Some men who cross dress recognise this as a cognitive dissonance / gender dysphoria and do not ever actually call themselves women. But forcing other people (and society) to pretend you are a woman is a different level of danger altogether.

Unfortunately that's no guarantee of good intent.

Obviously I'm not suggesting any intent of any kind, as nobody knows the reason for his decision - but Grayson Perry's choice of groin attire at a children's charity event is certainly eyebrow-raising:

https://x.com/Glinner/status/1779655636218941541?t=gX_ThLA8ok9nvVrkXViE8Q&s=19

Especially so when he talks in his own autobiography about making his own dresses with lots of puffed up layers, so that his excitement is hidden. He wears these dresses on primary school visits too. He's quite open about it all.

Here he is at a school with Princess Kate:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2911257/amp/Every-inch-yummy-mummy-Duchess-Cambridge-pretty-navy-meets-arty-children-Grayson-Perry.html

x.com

https://x.com/Glinner/status/1779655636218941541?s=19&t=gX_ThLA8ok9nvVrkXViE8Q

bathofbeans · 16/10/2024 17:12

Well I finally got round to watching this film, and blimey, it's so powerful.

The undeniable link between men wanting to become women and the sexual fetishes, narcissism and abuse that accompanies the cross-dressing, male>female fantasy, is too strong and dangerous to ignore.
I would go far as so say that forcing someone you have married, to treat you as the opposite gender to who they married, should in law be a recognised form of emotional abuse.

There is no harm in men wearing whatever they like when it comes to dress sense and makeup, nail varnish etc to express themselves (like the punks and new romantics) - the danger seems to come when men actually fantasise that they ARE women.

Some men who cross dress recognise this as a cognitive dissonance / gender dysphoria and do not ever actually call themselves women. But forcing other people (and society) to pretend you are a woman is a different level of danger altogether.

Women and children need extra protection from these men.

Thank you to those who made, and took part in, the film.

DameMaud · 04/10/2024 11:47

Great. Thanks!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/10/2024 09:56

Thanks @TinselAngel, that's brilliant.

TinselAngel · 04/10/2024 09:33

Vaishnavi is going to be posting each woman's story in full on YouTube, and the first one premieres at 7pm tonight

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TinselAngel · 03/10/2024 20:14

DameMaud · 03/10/2024 17:43

Have only just watched, and was so affected and impressed by this film (133k views currently).
So much awe and appreciation for Tinsel and all involved in the film.

I also then caught this wonderful in depth interview with Vaishnavi Sundar about the film and more broadly too- that I hope is OK to add to this thread.

I expect Tinsel and anyone involved in the film might already be aware of it, but thought anyone else who had watched the film who wasn't aware of this interview might appreciate it.

What a deeply intelligent and compassionate woman Vaishnavi is. It really shines out in this interview.

open.spotify.com/episode/3rgIqSSHIPK89lsokvqi8x?si=MCAOlPMfS1Kk4ZAdHKBqag&t=0

I glad you liked it.

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DameMaud · 03/10/2024 17:43

Have only just watched, and was so affected and impressed by this film (133k views currently).
So much awe and appreciation for Tinsel and all involved in the film.

I also then caught this wonderful in depth interview with Vaishnavi Sundar about the film and more broadly too- that I hope is OK to add to this thread.

I expect Tinsel and anyone involved in the film might already be aware of it, but thought anyone else who had watched the film who wasn't aware of this interview might appreciate it.

What a deeply intelligent and compassionate woman Vaishnavi is. It really shines out in this interview.

open.spotify.com/episode/3rgIqSSHIPK89lsokvqi8x?si=MCAOlPMfS1Kk4ZAdHKBqag&t=0

TinselAngel · 20/09/2024 15:21

This film is now also on X/ Twitter

x.com/vaishax/status/1837134170969317449?s=46&t=PSGltfjrMyZmBtYq2-AVIQ

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Maaate · 09/09/2024 10:48

Just to add, big up to Tinsel for all the work and awareness raising you do. I have nothing but admiration for how you always put the women and children affected by these men first and foremost in everything you say.

Maaate · 09/09/2024 10:34

I had wondered why there was so much screeching about the term 'transwidow' on X over the last few days.

DrSpartacular · 09/09/2024 10:23

TinselAngel · 09/09/2024 10:21

We've reached 100,000 views!

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TinselAngel · 09/09/2024 10:21

We've reached 100,000 views!

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/09/2024 08:54

Great interview with Vaishnavi.

TinselAngel · 09/09/2024 07:25

x.com/gbnews/status/1832859351213559912?s=46&t=PSGltfjrMyZmBtYq2-AVIQ

Vaishnavi on Free Speech Nation.

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Catsmere · 07/09/2024 22:52

When I searched for it, having forgotten the title, I got the documentary about the making, with the actual film in the side panel. Haven't seen TRA stuff pushed yet, but I'm used to ignoring YT's recommendations.

DuckDuckNo · 07/09/2024 22:40

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 05/09/2024 22:42

YT has been pushing clapback or response videos to me since watching the documentary. This is even when I enter the exact name of the film, it's several places down the list.

I appreciate how cautious everyone has to be about this documentary. Andrew Gold seems to have been quite shocked at what happened to him after the podcast with Ritchie Herron that so far has 1.4M views.

This documentary is so important.

Yeah, I noticed that when I searched for it by name on Youtube, I got a screenful of response videos but not the actual documentary. I actually had to go outside Youtube and google for it with the name + YouTube and then I could find it.

It's a massive issue that many of these TRAs work in tech and are ever-so-powerful on the internet, and the internet is now our main means of communication and spreading information.

TinselAngel · 07/09/2024 10:48

91143 views ...

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Teacaddy66 · 07/09/2024 07:00

Fantastic film. So moving. I wonder how it can get more coverage and reach?
Well done Tinsel and all others who contributed and given sunlight to this abuse and obliteration of women and children's voices.

TinselAngel · 06/09/2024 21:54

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/09/2024 21:27

What a moving film.
So good to hear these tenacious and strong women talking.
Flowers Flowers

Glad you liked it.

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