What does Taylor Swift represent that makes men hate her enough to want to kill her fans?

@Daleksatemyshed
If they could only see that women are happy to have a good man in their life
I dont think they want to be good men, they want to be 'alpha bad boys' who have the pick of all the women and are envied by other men

@Newstarts1 they don't care about the DC, it's just an excuse to go out and be violent, it makes them feel powerful when they're not.

Don’t even get me started on that!

I was reading about one man who was jailed for trying to set a hotel housing refugees on fire - he has a whole list of child abuse convictions against him as do many of that ilk who claim they were rioting to “save are girls”

It seems like what they really mean is they want to save the girls for them 🤢

Why don’t any of these disgruntled men challenge paedophiles like him if they genuinely care about abuse of women and girls? Instead they’re rioting with one of the main culprits 🙄

It's very telling that the worst thing these men can think of happening to a woman is being old, single and childless- and yet so often they're single and childless themselves. They hate Taylor Swift's popularity because she's saying be your own self, don't depend on men, that's a huge problem for them, all those women supporting each other, telling little girls they can be what they want to be.
If they could only see that women are happy to have a good man in their life maybe they could change but the Tate's of the world tell them lies, stupid, stupid lies

My understanding is that often if a woman was accused of witchcraft and executed, her property, possibly valuable, could then be seized. Or anyway, in the end, it was no longer hers.
These girls who go to concerts have 'escaped' male supervision, and they have their own pocket money, have organized amongst themselves with other fans, etc. etc.

Yes women are rising up, dictating their own terms and are refusing to minimise themselves to make other people feel better. There’s a palpable shift… which Taylor has encapsulated in ‘You Need to Calm Down’ and ‘The Man’. Barbie was the biggest grossing movie because the message resonates with so many of us who are sick and tired of this shit.

Men are inherently more entitled than women and most don’t even know it. Society expects women to minimise ourselves, put others first all the time.

Well here’s an experiment for you that will demonstrate this. Walk down the street and consciously refuse to move position when a man walks towards you. You will have to probably fight the urge not to move. He will not move until the last second. I do this periodically and it is always the same with some exceptions. But I still revert to type and move. It could be confirmation bias but it’s certainly made me think about how I minimise myself and don’t claim the physical/ abstract space I am entitled to.

True.

For some reason your comment made me think of the past too. Just think of how so many women were accused of ‘witchcraft’ in the 1600s. Just wise women mixing herbs, caring for others and likely collaborating and using their ‘power’ of femininity. They were hunted and slaughtered. Has nothing changed…

Exactly, these women are the antithesis of what they see as ideal in a woman.
Men have only been able to dominate because they were able to subjugate women, able to work things to male advantage such that women (if they wanted to get on in life at all) had to align themselves with/work for, men.
No animal will willingly cede power, we should not be surprised that men feel threatened.

It really is.

These angry incels /red pill podcast gym bro types are really losing it as more and more women refuse to put up with their crap just for the sake of having a man. You can just see them seething with anger behind the keyboards 😅

I think it's the joy, yes, exactly as you say OP...

I have a male relative that I’m no contact with him but I remember when i stayed with him for a year while I did my masters.

There was one occasion he ridiculed me for wearing something bright and insinuated it was “childish”, when I was going off to dinner at a friends house with some other course mates, and having a sleepover he was clearly jealous I’d made friends so quick, and made a snide comment that they’d only invited me along as the “grandma of the group” because I was about 5 years older than most of them.

When I got a merit for my masters he said “is that all ? Not even a distinction?”

I was early 30s and re. his ageism - he was 5 years older than me! 😭

I can see now how it was all thinly veiled misogyny /male jealousy against a woman thriving, so it wasn’t such a shock when another relative told me he was now a Tate follower.

Same as Ariana Grande (re Manchester bombings). A strong female role model who is sure of herself, and has the power and success they will never have, so target their fanbase.

Do you really need to ask OP!!

Taylor represents everything they would like to be (in their fantasies) successful, powerful and wealthy, she also encourages women/girls to be/do better. They don’t like that because our patriarchal society has taught them they need to do the bare minimum to attract women/success. They can’t see that it’s the very outdated traditions perpetuated by men in power that have done them the real harm. That’s why we see so many mediocre men walking around with the ego of an elephant.

^This
Men can’t cope with it. Also incel mindset.

The idea of women being free, happy, singing and dancing enrages some men

I think you have to put it into a calculator and read it upside down.
Yes, that's their level.

That's why older women are ridiculed.
These men want to stop younger women getting the wisdom, breaking the matriarchal connection. I hate it on here when posters are so ageist, older women being "frumpy" and dullards., the term "menopausal" is an insult. It's totally out of this playbook..

I had to Google 'a 304'. Had no idea. It just said 'stainless steel' to me.

Yeah for some reason that’s how they express that insult online nowadays 😬 always finding new ways of putting down women!

Men have got away with being incomplete humans for such a long time.

I completely agree. It’s so transparent they are unhappy about their own lives and fearful for the future so they are trying to scare women into settling instead of trying to be better people who can actually attract a nice woman.

And they never have anything to say when people point out that many adults including deadbeat fathers have children and “die alone” anyway. Anyone who works in a nursing home can tell you that.

When I did online dating I remember trying to talk to this guy about what he did for fun except the gym or what he was interested in and he really couldn’t tell me. I’ve seen that with a lot of men, they don’t seem to have any hobbies and it’s tedious to me. One guy even said his hobby was “sleeping” 😐

I had to Google 'a 304'. Had no idea. It just said 'stainless steel' to me.

Misogyny is on steroids at the moment, so yes, it's women doing things without men that's causing their egos to crumple.

I saw an insta reel by a young woman (evazubeck) that showed how far it goes. She's a world traveller, an adventurer, she's recently done an extreme running race across Mongolia and is amazing. She's bought herself a few acres of land (Poland, corrected cos I was wrong) and will build her own home eventually. The xomments these sad sack men write to her......how she'll always be unmarried and childless (yay, that's what she wants), how ugly she is, how miserable she'll be without a man blah blah blah. She's abused by these couch potatoes for not being afraid. It's nauseating.

That's what they hate. Women not being afraid.

@butterbeansauce - this, 💯