Hi BundleBoogie,

I had an email from Northumbria Police Professional Standards two days ago saying that all the officers concerned have now submitted their statements, that these will be reviewed and then I will get another update.

Various reasons why this has all taken so long but hopefully it will be complete soon.

I received a written apology from the Assistant Chief Constable immediately the police were made aware that the recording had been posted on Social Media (TikTok and X).

At no point have the police suggested that I did anything wrong in recording the conversation between the officers, all Detective Constables I think.

The Police have also not objected to the recording being posted on Social Media. It is not, as alleged by certain trans rights activists on Mumsnet, "illegal" to have done so.

I missed the first few minutes of what the DC's said about me because at first I thought the radio or a video had kicked in. Then, when I realised what was happening, it took me a bit of time to fire up the computer and start recording by holding my phone on speaker-output next to the mic.

So the worst of what they said has not been recorded. I recorded about 10 minutes but there were long silences in that.

I sent the recording to North News and Pictures and one of their journalists selected clips to put together a TikTok video just over two minutes long. The police have a copy of the complete recording. As do I.

Harry Miller also has a copy but I can't remember if that is the full recording or the short version. Both North News and Pictures and Harry prepared transcripts. I think Harry filled in some of the barely audible parts where NN&P got stuck.

I haven't bothered to go through the full recording yet to see if there are any other clips worth adding. What North News and Pictures selected is bad enough.

If the TRA twats manage to get this taken down I will just post it somewhere else.

Northumbria Police response to threats against Party Of Women Candidate in General Election

and here is an update from when I went to "Let Women Speak: Police" outside Scotland Yard on 24 May 2025:

Northumbria Police: a Curate's Egg

There's also the serious question asking how a chief constable could be so critical of a police commissioner asking questions about the dodgy behaviour of a man who turns out to be a child rapist.
What made the chief constable decide to defend the paedophile to such an inconceivable degree?

yes Stephens chairs the National Police Chiefs council. I do hope that there will be a discussion that policing is not selective and that it is a service to be provided to all. I get that community policing is important but not at the expense of other crimes.

The police are expected to maintain and support standards. They are not meant to be political pawns. Given some of the horror stories over recent years, and I am not talking about the casual blind eye turning in some Pride/Trans/Womens events, about the police you would have thought that the focus needs to be on getting the basics right.

The majority of the public want to know what’s happening in terms of crime figures, are thefts being solved, what’s happening in rape/assaults/murder, why is shoplifting not being addresses? They do not care if someone with 30 followers says something on twitter like ‘it would be lovely to have biological female only toilets at the local rugby club’ which might lead to someone complaining that someone else could take offence if they had a twitter account and then by some chance read it but doesn’t go to the said rugby club.

Yes. As discussed here - the enthusiasm the chief constable of Surrey has for a now convicted rapist of a 12 year old boy suggests there may be a lot more murky crimes to be uncovered were there to be an investigation?

Oddly enough he seems to have been promoted rather than investigated:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5371338-5371338-pcc-lisa-townsend-on-stephen-ireland-and-surrey-police

The problem is not the sharing of the call but the reaction to a member of the public reporting a potential crime.

This shows that police need to get back to what they are paid to do.

Some police forces seem to be too busy wanting to be friends instead of enforcing the law. I am sure there are members of the public who would like support on tackling domestic violence/robbery/ assault/ rape/murder. But I guess those crimes fall into the difficult category whereas participating in a Pride March or monitoring social media is a lot easier and takes far less effort. (Surrey & Northumberland). It stems from the top in police forces and the attitudes of the Chief Constables.

If you find out elsewhere, please share. I'm also curious.

I was redirected to this old thread because someone is trying to stop people finding out about this by reporting the audio clips and getting them taken down. I had missed this first time round I think but it is pretty shocking. I wonder how the police investigation went?

Jesus Christ. It’s not illegal to record a telephone call - even if it’s with plod and TRAs don’t like it. It might be inadmissible in a trial but the plod are only showing themselves to be obnoxious, bigoted fucks and that isn’t actually a crime. They are however referring themselves to their own internal investigatory body where the evidence threshold is lower.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Trying to link this to RIPA is a very clear display of that little knowledge.

Policing by consent is a real and meaningful thing in the UK. Individual plod need to be very careful before undermining it.

So much concern around what's legal rather than what's right. A certain poster would have had a jolly old time during the late 1930s, just following orders, I'm sure.

Wasn't that an entrapment issue though, which doesn't apply in this case?

The "violation" reported by the TikTok bot and notified to the uploader was that the video was "bullying".

Apparently this has happened before with videos that provide evidence of bullying that has occurred - but the bot misinterprets the video as doing the bullying.

So what notification did the mysterious, unknown person who reported the video receive?

Who or what is a bot and how did the uploader receive this info?

The specific video was reported and removed after a violation was found, the uploader should have received the same notification as the person reporting it.

I can't tell you how shocked I am

Hold the front page! Update about the disappearing TikTok video!

I contacted the journalist from North News and asked if she knew that the video had disappeared.

"Yes, I know. It happens all the time. It's really annoying. It's a bot."

😂

WarriorN · Yesterday 21:47

Hmm, perhaps Cassie had better offer her legal expertise to the Chief Inspector, who has evidently apologised mistakenly, instead of hauling the reprehensible Ms. Paton off to chokey.

Userbongbongbong · 05/07/2024 20:54

I've name changed for this because if you work for the police you cannot express any GC views, not anywhere and definitely not in writing.

Thanks for that explanation and the one about RIPA, organisations and members of the public, which Cassie seems determined to ignore!

The thoroughly reputable News Agency involved, who Northumbria Police are aware without complaint, were in possession of the audio recording, might also have something to say if they have been falsely accused of a crime.

This could be a whole new story, about interference with legitimate journalism.

Also TikTok might find themselves in trouble if they start accusing women of a crime which the police have not.

Liz didn't post that on TikTok

Of course, nothing to do with a whistleblower taping police being discriminatory.

who then start to investigate themselves!

Violation found because it contained illegal content, nothing to do with what you call "gender critical viewpoint".

Oh yeah, cos that would be unusual, wouldn't it? Social media sites taking down gender critical viewpoints, banning women and compromising their posting.

Christinapple is on a one person crusade to report everything they don't like to every possible authority going. I'd say there's a good chance that Christinapple reported this to TikTok

"It was removed after being reported"

You seem to know a lot about this. How do you know it was reported?

"No idea why the TikTok video has been taken down - I didn't post it."

I'll help you out. Tiktok doesn't permit the uploading of illegal content, such as the recording of a private conversation over a phoneline without the consent of both parties. It was removed after being reported.