Farage says Andrew Tate is an important voice for men

hamstersarse · Today 06:55
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He has not been accused of rape

He most certainly has been accused of rapes, by a Romanian magistrate.

He has been accused of trafficking because he set women up and managed them on Only Fans

All the women victims said the same thing, they were kept captive and forced to have sex with loads of men, which in most people's worlds is rape.

I feel sorry for you, that you don't understand that and see fit to defend a stain on humanity.

Weird answer

Because we've got eyes and ears and the brainpower to process the input from those senses and draw conclusions.

The fact you are not aware of his use of the word ‘matrix’ tells me you literally know nothing about him

As I said above, this is not helpful in stopping young men following him. In fact, it has the opposite effect

"How can so many people still be in the thrall of Farage and Reform UK"

Like attracts like. 🤷 It really is that simple.

The matrix. What absolute bloody conspiracy nutters have we here?

Why do people here believe young men follow him in such high numbers?

Tell you what stinks @Creamcakes99, the very notion that Tate is any kind of good influence on boys. I really hope you don't have sons if Tate and Farage are your examples of moral direction.

Leaving aside the extremely serious allegations of rape, exploitation and money laundering, he's a repugnant example of everything that is wrong with toxic masculinity. Trading on some notion that being wealthy but also a controlling prick to women is some kind of life goal. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Also your vague list of things you like about Reform is based on Nigel's greatest bullshit hits. Most of them aren't actually accurate and none of them would he do anything to change. He's a con man. You're a fool. And a misogynist.

The more lies you say about him, the more the young men flock to him, and the more he’s proved ‘right’ that the matrix, which would include the guardian, are not to be trusted

Seriously?!

I asked you what Farage actually said. You claim we got him wrong and you can't say how. So you retract that, then?

On second thought, just fucking forget it. Anybody who blameshifts and calls victims of sexual predators "stupid" is not worth one more minute of anyone's time. It's boring, because you're just repeating the same nonsense over and over and not addressing points. Are you a bot? Forget I said that. It was rhetorical.

@WarriorN
He has not been accused of rape
He has been accused of trafficking because he set women up and managed them on Only Fans

Many people do this.

The more lies you say about him, the more the young men flock to him, and the more he’s proved ‘right’ that the matrix, which would include the guardian, are not to be trusted

If you had a young male adult child and started saying all this to him, I guarantee you it would make him think you had no idea about Tate at all and would almost certainly not trust your opinion on him

if you’ve never watched him at source, first hand, you really do need to before spouting hit piece sound bites

Crikey. What sickening views on a feminist board. Does that make me “woke”? Jesus fucking wept.

XChrome · Today 06:38

I think Andrew Tate is a fascinating figure. I think his speaking to men, who because of the woke agenda were told they couldn’t be male in any way at all, was an important thing.

Oh dear! You don't actually believe all that stuff they print in that freesheet which gets left in Wetherspoon's, do you?

Do you think that Tate telling impressionable young men and boys to abuse and control women, that they're only good to have sex on, (on chosen carefully) to take their wages etc are positive things for them to aspire to?

how much do you actually know about his case?
some of these women were his ex gf
both brothers up for the same crimes?
the whole thing stinks

But I feel some of his comments were pretty horrible

Oh but the sex trafficking and abuse of women, that was fine was it because they were stupid?

Joe Wicks has a similar message; just devoid of the grooming use of cars and women as objects and flaunting wads of cash.

Absolutely

My first reaction to the title is that it is factually true that Tate has been an important voice to young men.

Like that or hate that, young men have been mesmerised by him

I think Andrew Tate is a fascinating figure. I think his speaking to men, who because of the woke agenda were told they couldn’t be male in any way at all, was an important thing. But I feel some of his comments were pretty horrible

You obviously mean the "stupid" women he raped and forced into prostitution. Yeah, that was stupid of them to get raped and trafficked.

Misogynistic, sick, abusive agenda fully revealed. Congratulations. That was accomplished in record time. Too easy. What a bore.

I’m calling out ridiculous uneducated over reactions

What's an over reaction?

if women are stupid enough to get involved with Tate then that’s their decision

You don't get grooming do you. He described exactly how he did this in his "education tools."

He's clearly got you too.

Cream, what did Farage really say and what did it mean? "Educate" us, Professor.

Who are you to tell me what to think?
you are part of the problem
I’m not defending him. I’m calling out ridiculous uneducated over reactions
if women are stupid enough to get involved with Tate then that’s their decision

Exactly what DH said: “He’s just trolling now.”

What question? You're not making sense.

Of course I don't watch him. I don't stick pins in my eyeballs either. And...?

I didn't say I, personally, have evidence of steroid use. I said he has been accused by others in his sport, who are in a position to know.
Oh, I should be "careful?" Why? Is somebody going to do something to me?

Tell us you're an acolyte who has been sucked in by a con artist without telling us...bla bla. You get the idea.

Cream. He's a grifter and abuser. Stop defending him on a feminist forum.

You haven’t answered my question !
also have you watched Tate ?
many of his videos only really broadcast the messages I’ve quoted above
what evidence have you to support the steroid accusation?
careful what you accuse ppl of without anything concrete
im not an advocate but im not going to throw around baseless accusations after watching a more on 4 one sided documentary